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Saw the CAMit parts listed online, but didn't realise it wasn't going to auction on Grays - just an 'offers invited'. Haven't seen that done before on Grays like that - was waiting for catalogue of parts to be released for bidding. The entire workshop is being listed shortly - plant, equipment and vehicles are all up for grabs. Bidding looks like it will be open between 6pm 7 Dec and ~7.30pm 13 Dec. CNC Metal Manufacturing Facility Doesn't appear to be any plans to resurrect the show, based off that, unfortunately.

Correct, when I was there I saw the CAE barrels/cylinders being sandblasted and painted a matte black colour. Was intended to help diffuse the heat more efficiently. Observed some heads getting a similar treatment: some of the engines sold to South Africa incorporated a finned rocker cover too, with the entire head and this finned rocker cover further painted with some dark paint also. Unsure if same paint was used on both heads and barrels. Can only assume they were designed to be suited to the hotter climate over there (though summer here gets close!).

I'm not so sure Geoff. From the feedback from happy forumites about the difference in service between the two companies, many were planning on making their next engine a CAE when the time came. Sonex had just announced the OEM deal. Etc. Unfortunately for CAMit, the time didn't come soon enough. I'm not about to go into the IP arrangements etc - it's already been covered by others in more detail - but I assume it was legal and robust enough to not have Jabiru stomp CAMit out right at the emergence of the first CAMit-modified engine. Oscar would have more details on what some of the early modifications were, and we know these then evolved to encompass a complete engine as Ian tweaked more of the design as time went on. CAMit used to make the complete engine for Jabiru (excepting cast components and other items like valves, springs etc). As time went on - and this has also been covered elsewhere - Jabiru sought to lower costs through sourcing items from other suppliers. Cast rocker arms and camshafts, for example. What other option did CAMit have, when they were slowly getting edged out of the supply chain? Selling their own engine would have had a higher profit margin for them, kept jobs in-house and reduced the risk if or when Jabiru were to decide to source complete engines from somewhere else. Reports that the new Jab engine at Oz-Kosh were developed in house and will be assembled under their roof when the time comes almost tell me that this may have been down Jabiru's chosen path after all - complete in-house control of their product. Not knowing, I can't say so don't want to comment further there. When Jabiru eventually rolls over to this new engine of theirs, where would this have left CAMit? Without their own product after all that, and suddenly, no orders from Jabiru anymore? Not at death's doorstep, but halfway down the hallway, commenting on the hat stand.

A couple on the Yahoo Jab/CAMit group report to have sent Ian some short emails wishing him all the best, and mentioned that he took the time to reply to them. Other than these replies of a personal nature, I imagine the silence has been due to him being unable to comment on things since he is no longer running the show - it is perhaps now up to the receivers/administrators to make public comment as a few have already said. His email address at CAMit will soon no longer be active. By all reports, both he and Jenny need a long rest - they've spent decades on such a venture and it's going to be a massive adjustment for them. Some of the plant equipment may be tired, yes - one or two machines having made parts for very early Jabiru engines and still in operation - but other machines were years ahead of them. For example - when I once got a tour around, got shown a 13-axis lathe which the camshafts were produced on. In went a bar of material, and out came a completed camshaft, short of being hardened and ground.

Probably relatively not too many who actually participated in the referendum at all. Apparently 25k signatures are from North Korea. 40k+ signatures are from Vatican City: population <1,000. Along with plenty of other fake names from across the EU. Even Antarctica is signing the thing, if the first report is anything to go by. http://www.globalresearch.ca/second-uk-referendum-petition-rife-with-fraud-gush-of-fake-names/5533083 Petition for second Brexit referendum investigated for fraud Food for thought.