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Well hell of a good days flying today, West Sale to Lang Lang then around Western Port to Phillip Island, lap around the Island and a few around the race track then off to Wilson’s Promontory via Wonthaggi and Sandy point, from the bottom of the Prom to Yarram Airport for a coffee and a restroom stop.

Left Yarram and tracked to the coast via McLaughlins beach then 1500ft all the way to Lakes Entrance, couple of laps around Lakes then off to Pilgrim International at Bruthen.

Voice mail from my sister saying they were at Lakes had me heading back for a couple of passes past Kalimna pub and a wave to the 2 sisters and Ma & Pa having their fish and chips on a bench outside the pub.

Back to West Sale via home to top off 4.5 hours and about 780kms for the day with all the detours taken, burnt about 68 litres of BP premium 95 unleaded in the process with an average fuel burn of around 15.2 lph.

Never tire of my passion for aviation.

Few photos of the trip

So we talking about a Bristol boxkite?, Bulldog?, Blenheim? Beaugfighter or a Britannia?

Or is it the Bristell?

Fly the Bristell within its design parameters and you will most likely not spin it in. (It should be noted that in Europe they are fitted with a BRS as it is mandatory, the chute is fitted forward of the instrument panel, so these ones that have flat spun in after being mishandled and not had chutes fitted are less 13kg forward for cog, does this play a part?)

It had a comprehensive spin testing regime conducted by a well qualified Soviet Test pilot who spun it 100’s of times with a BRS fitted and our God CASA thinks it is not up to scratch the testing?

Might get a shock old CASA discrediting a company without due cause.

Here is a link to the interview

I would think that there were no coolant pipes in the cockpit. The report states that coolant was coming out of the cowling and dripping onto the panel. It seems to be external to start and running into the cockpit.

I wonder if the coolant caused a short in the panel.

It would have been better to give a mayday on area frequency, rather than on a CTAF I would think, at least at the very start and then maybe back to CTAF when in the circuit.

I was surprised when I gave a mayday years ago and got an immediate response from a nearby chopper asking if he could help. That was on area and if I had used the local CTAF he may not have heard it.

Yenn,

I don’t think the area frequency would have helped all that much at that height as the Strzelecki ranges are at about 2000 Ft, not many airliners flying either to pick up the call as Melb ctr would have probably not heard the call.

Not necessarily. I've had smoke in the cockpit. I know how I react.

Winnie Blue or PJ Gold?

Where did you put the ash & butt.

You can fly through East Sales airspace through D353 and the coastal route without contacting the RAAF just read up on the procedure and don’t bust the height restriction

Oh and BTW wave to me at West Sale as you go past 8nm away while transiting D353 as we are happily stuck on the ground not allowed to take off while the airspace is active.

CASA are R soles and the RAA are happy to take our full membership and registration fees while we get to fly 2 days out of 7 while others have the choice of 7 out of 7 if they so desire.

Not fair

Ones that irk me the most are the Indians out of Moorabbin that think it is radio FM, basically the only thing they don’t tell you is the colour of their jocks and socks.

Here them telling their mates they are over the red roof house over Sandy Point.

Another irk is from many a pilot is 10 nautical mile call.

Guys aviation is in nautical miles just say one zero miles or even 10 miles and stop wasting the airways with dribble.

We all get it.

No one knows how one will react in a pressure situation, smoke in the cockpit or from the engine may have well had him direct tracking back to the big safe strip of dirt with tunnel vision and not aware of his surroundings or what he was going to be flying over to get there.

Everyone handle pressure differently.

End of the day it is what it is, they are both alive at this stage and that is all that matters.

I fly in and out of Yarram often, plenty of open spaces also around the area but we do not know his situation at the time.

Speedy recovery pilot and pax.

That goes for anything humans have invented, drugs, guns all machinery fixed and in motion, as safe as the user/operator!

Your on to it, we are the weakest link

So what we are saying is rec pilots are more dangerous than motorcycle riders.

In actual fact the plane and bike are as safe as houses, only time they are dangerous is when a human controls one or attempts to in some cases.

Such a waste of life, not even a here hold my beer moment, more so I’ll drink it and she’ll be right mate.

Took a mate to Marlo ( YORB ) yesterday. [ATTACH type=full]53311[/ATTACH][ATTACH type=full]53312[/ATTACH]He took these pics during our descent from 3500’into Bairnsdale. Flight was around 30 mins for near 50 nm,...... Bob

Aww Bob, making me jealous that you can get out every day without the hassle of the RAAF

 

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If there had of been liquid in the tanks instead of air we wouldn’t be reading about it.

Amazing that the thing you have most control over is often the thing that puts you in the news.

Should never happen, naughty aeroplane how dare thee run out of fuel.

Seems that the opening up of the skies to light aircraft flying has resulted in a few incidents last few days. At my airport a few near misses and a engine out flip on landing this morning (Huntly c172 pilot OK). Was thinking could this be rusty pilots or rusty engines/ rusty fuel issues.?

Personally I think it just a few pilots that didn’t get is exactly right at the time of the issue.

Not in any way having a go at them just sometimes being human and under pressure things don’t go as planned.

Even the Tecnam site?

Dragging up an old post from the past but I am also looking for a copy. Anyone have one?

Just google it and it will pop up just like that for you to download it.

Bike, ZZR 1100, 295 kph, My plane, 161 kts ground speed (298kph)

Commercial jet from Perth many years back was high 1200’s kph or even low1300’s, captain said it was the quickest trip he had ever done from Perth, just can’t remember the exact speed but it was very quick.

Victoria is manacled by a premier who is glorying in his moment of power.

Pm

The big problem will be BFR's / flyingt training for new pilots / aircraft owners it's well and good for you to flY your plane but there will be no on going train or new pilots until a lot is sorted out. currency / proficiency is going to be a problem if the entire sport is only flying occasionally. Remember flying is a skill you loose if you don't practice it! Regulators and insurance companies will only allow you to go so long without a flight review!

Well Jase T

When I get home from my month away in the desert at work at the end of the month, I intend to take up some essential training in my plane solo keeping my skills up.

I think it is essential to at least practice what I got trained to do 15 years ago.

I also find it essential to get my engine to operating temp and over 100 deg with the oil at every start up (I cannot do that by ground running it)

It is worth 27k to replace and the Victorian state government won’t offer to replace it if it sits for 12 months.

You cannot get any more self isolated than flying, gloves on when you fuel at a petrol station and unlocking the Hangar.

Victoria is controlled by a wannabe communist who is kissing China’s butt at the moment.

Have a look on google maps. The power line is well away from the strip about 700m. I dont believe the power line is a factor in the crash as the trees appear to be taller.

 

How many pilots can say from memory what the static rpms are for their aircraft.

5200 rpm with a Hoffman 2 blade fixed pitch.

Part of my takeoff procedure is full power is obtained, airspeed alive, temps & pressures are in the green and no turn back under 700 ft.

Come on kids play nice. This media fed Corona BS has you all on edge, or is it the mungbeans bulk hoarding that have you all on edge.

Very sad outcome that most likely could have been avoided by the sounds of it.

Atrocious weather, 2 failed attempts but only the pilot knows why he was persisting.

Was he too low on fuel for an alternate? who knows, pressures by the pax to get there I doubt it, case of get there itis and complete mission, once again who knows.

But it did have the human input and the tragic outcome.

Condolences to all the families and friend of those lost.

Gofly,

No risk releasing the video it is a great training video, shows the training you give pays off up until the pilot is out on his own.

Kyle handled it very well and should be proud of himself as I can see you are.

My biggest gripe with a lot of pilots is between BFR’s many don’t practice a thing, just sit there fat dumb and happy confident the engine won’t let them down.

I myself on every flight practice something and have since I first started 15 odd years ago and it paid off for me one day when I had the holes line up and had a carby icing incident ( which I initially though was something stuck in the needle) which nearly put me on the deck from 2500 ft.

People need to learn from this video that you need to keep your skills sharp.

Well done once again for posting it.

At the end of the day it doesn’t matter what type of engine it was, all that matters is it was handled as it should have been and aircraft sustained no damage and the instructor and student walked away to fly another day.

I was in YWSL just the other day, the RAAF where very helpful, no delays in or out ?

Machtuk,

You GA or RAA or both.

You also have to remember he won’t do it again, shame he took 8 others with him

RIP Heroes of the sky.

To pass in another country away from your loved ones fighting fires for us is the ultimate sacrifice to make.

May your families know we Australians owe you the utmost respect and gratitude for what you have done for us and may you have clear sky’s and tailwinds forever.

Our utmost sympathy to your loved ones in a far away land.