Ballpoint 246niner

Motz, I reckon you've nailed it with your answer, as many of you know I own a 120 and teach in Tecnam's. So it's easy to forget if you're either Arthur or Martha- and I'm neither!

The Jab likes lot's of airflow, but too much at the wrong time and it's very slippery. Just ask anyone who's tried to get a 230 to land from 70 kts!

The Teccie couldn't really care if it's 40 or 100kts, the linearity in it's behavior is fantastic. For those of you who have flown Sierra's you'll know that the Lam wing sacrifices some of these niceties for performance and that's also the decision Jab has had to make- it's all a compromise.

The all flying tail on the tecnam gives great authority at low airspeeds, propwash alone gives enough to raise the nose. But compare the control surface sizes on any of the jabs- much smaller ergo more speed required to be more effective.

On the flip side you can buy 2 J160's for the price of a new echo, or close to it so is it any wonder there are so many Jab's - theyre really are great bang for buck.

They're both very good airplanes, but nothings perfect, so realise the differences, fly them accordingly, and be a better pilot for mastering them both!

About 15 yrs ago I was part of a local 48 way attempt, we had three goes but busted at 43. even tho we never made it, to dock and look over at some 40 friends was not only intense but extremely satisfying.

to do this and as you say, better it twice is a phenomenal effort- congrats to all involved.

Hassell!!

:cool:For a minute there I thought you were suggesting Tomo was my optomitrist! He can work on my car but I wouldn't dare let you near my eyes:cool:

I will definately be there next year no matter what- Very impressed in the support, organisation, and focus this year. I've got the low temp sleeping bag sorted!!

Tomo, I've put in a written expression for Evans Head with a plan to retire there- Peter Lynch was quoted that blocks would be around $250K! Then said in another statement it would not be for the rich and famous!! Add 250+ for a house and 65 for a hangar or architect combo and it'll owe close to $600k

Temora's a long way from home for you young man- but $$ wise a much better proposition. Few go wrong with real estate, but buying for your passion you need to be extra careful.

I got real close to buying a chalet at Watts but the sub leasing from the water board is a real hassle and you can only live there temporarily. Ok if you work O/S or are itinerint.

No I won't change! After the Jab it's a Piper sport- STOP- you won't make me change.

Good one tomo, sorry I missed getting there.

Cheers.

Hey Patrick, well done yesterday and great to turn talk(on the forum) into flying as we did yesterday. Look forward to flying with you again soon.

talking of the weather what are people thinking? especially those whose departure would be from the south of Monto?Im a bit nervous of the forecast as I was intending to go inland from Grafton to Toowoomba and to do so have to go over the ranges and as such was interested in the cloud base... might have to look at going up the coast east of brisbane.... I admit to being a bit wary of that busy area....

 

Who has done the east of brisbane route up the coast and was there anything that needs close watching?

 

Andy

Going west is traffic easier but again check Amberley status and fog may raise it's head as dewpoint will be low tomorrow. This route has a lot of tiger country, but cloud should not be a problem tomorrow- returning may be different.

Hope this helps- and stay warm 8 degrees tonight!

Now have flight school commitments on the Sat/Sun so Monday may be my only chance. Stay tuned- plans change like the weather.

Nice to say hello Gasdive- good to get some more fabric in the threads! Also a long term hangie, triker and glass ship go faster. We've got a couple of doodle buggers up here too. Welcome aboard.

Wasn't it just. Amazed when everyone took off on 24 to go to Gatton (when there was no wind, i'm sure runway 24 is not to be used for takeoffs). Then when I returned windsock pointing right at 24 and everone was on 30. Saw Someone change to 24 so I landed, taxiied then started circuits on 24.Amazing how something that is a little strange happens and no one wants to adjust...

At least the thread seems to have gathered some steam- good for sharing.

I know I posted this a while ago...Was doing circuits at caboolture one day. Was turned base when a meatbomber entered the runway to line up. I turned final and it was still there. All my radio calls were right etc. Even did a short final call (just to make sure). I had decided to go around but all the radio chatter in the area hadn't allowed me to make the call. Just before I crossed the threshold the cessna gave a rolling call! Scared the crappers out of me. I jumped on the radio and told them not too. Went around ok and everything was fine.

 

Had a few thoughts about the whole situation. I should have made a radio directed to the aircraft.

 

From her part of view it's like the human factors training. She turned up, went to start the aircraft, just before runup someone from the jump school told her that she hadn't contacted brisbane tower to inform them of the jump. So with a full plane she had to stop, go out and make the phone call, come back. Aircraft wouldn't start when she came back. So by the time she had taxi'd out she had had a lot go wrong and didn't have her mind clear and 100% on the job.

Fess up time - I went to enter not long ago at YRED 07 and failed to see a finals aircraft behind 2 hovering choppers, I made the entering call and was quickly advised( in certain terms). Radio worked in this case and was the right back up for my lack of vigilence- As Facthunters says "Never stop learning"

On the other side,

I've had a RV6 cut through downwind right at 1040' in front and numerous A/C on non operational opposite ccts and many more. I don't blame them, there's no point, just glad I saw them first. At the end of the day there's no point being dead right.

Look, listen,lament, learn and hopefully laugh about it!

Hey Spin, Tomo- yep great day, the committee were very happy with turnout. It's a great spot and deserves our support. People were asking bout you Tomo, but I thought you were busy. I had student commitments early but this was OK with the early fog.

Am going to Monto on Sat, may leave friday and back Sat pm or early Sunday morning. Be good to see u both.

Cheers Ballpoint,

Just thought I'd let everyone know Caboolture has converted to a PIN credit card (visa/MCard). But it is not shown on the shell site list.

Does anyone know if Bundy has converted as well- just thinking in realtion to Monto in a few weeks.

Good work mate, your penmanship is reflecting your flying, thoughtful, enjoyable and dare I say it entertaining, as Bluey said- glad to be a part of it. You are a proud example of the future in flying, keep it up! Now we expect a follow up on the trials of the GA conversion! Have you started??

Well first of all can I say you will definately notice the differences nathj. They are different A/C in many ways.

The issue really boils down to how comfortable you are developing the right primacies in your flying with good instruction on both sides.No doubt the differences in a/c types and the way they behave is as diverse as the models currently available in oz. You will need to adapt to these differences easily to keep your training progressing at the appropriate rate for you.

A pioneer, jabiru, tecnam, texan, foxbat, cessna, drifter will all have different nose references for attitude, different roll and adverse characteristics, different sensitivities, cockpit layouts etc etc- experienced pilots with well developed primary skills develop good aircraft feel and can adapt to most different types quickly- not so easy for low hour students.

Neccesity is the mother of invention so go with what you have available- different airtime is better than less, and eventually it will develop you to be a better pilot. But hopefully your instructors will provide feedback if they sense that your development is being adversely affected.

Remember finally, REAL experience is not doing the same thing a million times, it really is doing many different things in many different situations, many times that will make you a better pilot. Good luck with your training!

Here, Here JR- you got it!

To continue the"pun"ishment- Yes I thought fowled plugs were appropriate for a turkey. How ironic CASA were checking ASIC's at Toowoomba when over the hill this guy was at work- I wonder if Aust Flying would comment on VH vs RA Aus credentials when this stuff goes on in the real world too. This is the second example of this I've seen with VH a/c in the last few mths - and I thought us trikers were supposed to be the crazy ones!

BTW the Cessna wouldn't run up this morning- his goose was cooked! Flew real low(ground) back to the parking area-it sounded terrible on run ups!

Super Cool shots yet again Tomo, and hope you really enjoyed the trike flight.We took our two students wives up yesterday and they were both blown away by how good it is to fly trikes. Fantastic weather, great reunions with many long time friends and acquaintances and again great to finally meet your whole family- Barry must tremble at the thought of more aviators in the family!

Good trip back via Gatton,beat this afternoons weather and smiles all round- will post our shots when I get them from Bill next week.

Will visit soon!!

Ballpoint.

I noticed in the compared overlays with Hannes how Matt uses slightly more sky but effectively converts it to speed over a longer time to arrive at an almost identical time. Can you imagine what it's like inside their heads- frightening..

Matt Hall just got a fantastic second place to Hannes Arch who redeemed himself after Abu Darbi- great racing.

David, reckon you're going to be a real asset to the forum- you know the man is workin when he tells you tells you he can get her to 72-75kts if everythings right- again LEGEND!

Look forward to meeting you at Monto in June.

Hey suck - Tomo has the credit for the photo's- I'm pathetic! I'd planned a trip to Tomo's and Boonah return this weekend but weathers popped it's head again. I've got 2 long weekends coming up but we're taking the trikes to Inglewood May day w'end- if I take the Jab instead I'll drop in then- how's it all going?