Garfly Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 https://www.aviation24.be/airports/austin-airport-aus/a-very-close-call-bewteen-a-southwest-boeing-737-and-a-fedex-boeing-767-at-austin-airport-texas/ (The YT Comment section gives a lot of context so better to click "Watch on YouTube") 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfly Posted February 5, 2023 Author Share Posted February 5, 2023 Juan's take on it .... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) Very unsatisfactory situation to evolve. Autolands can self initiate go arounds and the other aircraft would compromise that. Secondary considerations are could the SWA plane safely abort? Before V1 Yes.. That would reduce the time of close proximity substantially.. Some people will have some bad sleep nights. The TWR I would think. The SWA could have not accepted the clearance to line up, knowing Fed EX was close . There was no urgency for them to get away. There's rarely any urgency to get airborne. Nev Edited February 6, 2023 by facthunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgwilson Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 "We appreciate your Professionalism". ATC to the Fedex pilot after the almost disaster was averted. Well ATC had none in this case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfly Posted February 6, 2023 Author Share Posted February 6, 2023 40 minutes ago, kgwilson said: "We appreciate your Professionalism". ATC to the Fedex pilot after the almost disaster was averted. Well ATC had none in this case. Yeah, before that he said "You have our apologies, sir" and the "appreciate your professionalism" part, I took to mean "thanks for being cool enough not to cuss me out on the airwaves". Some YT commenters reckon that SWA puts undue pressure on ATC to not delay their aircraft. And the 737 captain's willingness to accept such a T/O clearance seems dodgy, if for no other reason than the ILS protection zone around the threshold. As Juan and others pointed out, the mere presence of another aircraft in that area with a CATIII (zero visibility) arrival on short final can throw the glideslope out - with obviously poor results. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 There will be more to come on this. US ATC is good on getting planes away ,but maybe SWA had to wait for the second engine to do a minimum specified warmup time. They commence taxi on one engine. Nev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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