DarkSarcasm Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Wanted: Bob Tait BAK Hi all, Now that my hideous law exams are done (yay!) I'm going to start cracking on with my flying theory. I have the ATC set but sometimes find the ATC BAK a little hard to understand (perhaps because I am not particularly scientifically/mechanically minded)..the chapter about aircraft general knowledge is currently doing my head in... I've heard the Bob Tait BAK book is highly recommended, so I figured I might look into getting it as well and using both. So, my question is, does anyone out there have a Bob Tait BAK that they're finished with and wouldn't mind selling to me (perhaps for mates rates? )....but yeah, anyone got a Bob Tait BAK that they don't want anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brett Campany Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Bob Tait's books are great. Don't think I would've passed my BAK without them. I had the ATC books and found the same problem, very hard to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Darky, My instructor has just recently got onto a guy doing absolutely fantastic manuals for all aspects of flying... He and his wife have written these up and they are honestly the best I've seen and looked through, so good in fact that I bought the Nav/Met manual even though I had finished those exams... just a very refreshing and easily understood book... He also includes a range of practice exams for each manual/subject. (As Brett Campany would know) The nav manual also includes complete practice maps, exams, flight planning check lists, a whole little book on explaining Notams, and weather forecasts, Color cloud charts, Navigation and fuel plan blanks and load planning charts - master for copying, there is stacks of stuff included... I definitely wouldn't go past this book. Very decent prices also for what you get... Written by Jan and Val Dyson-Holland and Edited by David Eyre. Their phone number is: (02) 4325 0072 email: valdhts at aapt dot net dot au I think he has written - Radio procedures, BAK, Nav/Met, Human Factors, and he is working on a RAA to PPL conversion manual too... can't wait for that one! :thumb_up: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bidgee Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 The consensus is that ATC is more in depth but BT covers the important bits without the guff. BT also has lots of multi guess questions similar to the exam which is really good. I've got both and prefer BT. Incidentally if you are planning to go on and do PPL make sure you do PPL BAK or you will be doing it again like I had to which is a drag Bob Tait books come up on eBay quite often. If you have patients set up a search and wait. Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSarcasm Posted October 15, 2009 Author Share Posted October 15, 2009 I'll try the ebay search thing. Tomo, how much are these magic books, do you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Tomo, how much are these magic books, do you know? Not real sure about the others, but my Nav/met was $70, Good price for what you get I reckon! I've shot him an email, so I'll let you know what I come up with... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceScott Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Hi Tomo I have the bak and met one and think that they are both really good value at around $70 each considering what you get with both of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSarcasm Posted October 15, 2009 Author Share Posted October 15, 2009 I'm going to do the PPL BAK (since I eventually intend to get a PPL as well), will these books work for that or are they written for the RAA BAK? By the sound of it, I'll definitely be getting the Nav/Met book when I do my X-Country endorsement, but if the BAK book is just for RAA maybe I should go with Bob Tait....any opinions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brett Campany Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 I'd recommend doing the PPL BAK first up. Apparently it's a little easier but that's how I did it and got through it pretty well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSarcasm Posted October 15, 2009 Author Share Posted October 15, 2009 It's easier? I thought the RAA one was easier because it didn't have so much on performance or loading or something....apparantly I'm mistaken? (If it's easier, why does anyone do the RAA one if the PPL one counts as well? :raise_eyebrow:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Technically speaking the BAK should be the same for both RAA and PPL... because they are all aeroplanes and all fly with wings and an engine... I did the RAA exams only because I thought it would be good to have a "Re-knewing" of the mind when I go for my PPL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultralights Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Bob Tait books are fantastic for passing exams, as they only have content that will be in the exams, nothing more. a lot more books will go into a lot more depth and will give you a greater understanding of the subject. but to pass the exams, Bob Tait is the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza 38 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 I'm going to do the PPL BAK (since I eventually intend to get a PPL as well), will these books work for that or are they written for the RAA BAK?By the sound of it, I'll definitely be getting the Nav/Met book when I do my X-Country endorsement, but if the BAK book is just for RAA maybe I should go with Bob Tait....any opinions? Hello DarkSarcasim- as already mention above- i have both ATC and Bob Taits- i found BoB Taits easier to use. Either books will have more than enough information for RAA X-country. Another book is Jim Davis, practical PPL flying. IT is IMO the best Theory Book to own. But it is expensive, around $100 but still worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simonflyer Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Go Bob Tait all the way:thumb_up:..You cant go wrong..Im cracking into his CPL,s at the moment and i just find him to be really consistent..The ATC stuff is good for extra knowledge, but only bob can make jokes about working out the end of daylight(probably the most painful process on earth-Or at least to me anyway!).. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza 38 Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 It's easier? I thought the RAA one was easier because it didn't have so much on performance or loading or something....apparantly I'm mistaken?(If it's easier, why does anyone do the RAA one if the PPL one counts as well? :raise_eyebrow:) IMO RAA is easier, as you have already mentioned, You dont do, Take Off/ landing charts or loading charts in RAA. I have done both exams. GA isnt any harder, it is just that you have to learn more, because weight and balance is a very important factor in loading 4 or more seats A/C . cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeK Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 For PPL BAK, I prefer the ATC books because they have more detail - but the Bob Tait one's are an easier read and the questions are good. So, horses for courses! For RAAus, as Tomo said, the Dyson-Holland books are the best by far. Exactly matched to the RAA exam, and good practice questions - for a while you could get them at LFS but then for some reason they changed. Sky Supply has them. As for difference between PPL and RAAus - the PPL has stuff on weight and balance, and take-off/landing performance, missing from RAAus. So you'll need to know the different loading systems (Bravo, Charlie, etc). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSarcasm Posted October 15, 2009 Author Share Posted October 15, 2009 My plan is to use my current ATC set with another BAK book (whichever one I end up with)...I'm thinking that having everything explained two ways will help me understand it all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeK Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 I'm thinking that having everything explained two ways will help me understand it all... My thoughts entirely .... :thumb_up: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanzahero Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 I used a toy plane to visualize what was happening to the aircraft... especially when it came to the primary and secondary effects of control surfaces. It helped me understand by looking at what the plane was doing. Stanzahero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSarcasm Posted October 15, 2009 Author Share Posted October 15, 2009 That's a good plan.... Right now I need the insides of a toy plane so I can visualise how the engine works! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanzahero Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 How's this look? The connecting rods have been omitted because they just got confusing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Right now I need the insides of a toy plane so I can visualise how the engine works! "Suck, Squeeze, Bang, Blow" There you go, that's how an engine works! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSarcasm Posted October 15, 2009 Author Share Posted October 15, 2009 "Suck, Squeeze, Bang, Blow" There you go, that's how an engine works! Pahah true...if I put that on the test will I pass, or wil they want more detail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maj Millard Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Unless it's a turbine and then it's...suck,swollow,heat and blow !!....hey Tomo, does one of those books tell you how to put a windsock on a shed ??.......................................:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanzahero Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Turbines still have a "four stroke cycle" with an induction, compression, ignition/power and an exhaust phase. The only difference is it takes place in a specific area of the engine...similar to a rotary car engine... Stanzahero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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