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This should be illegal

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FEMAMA? Well men get breast cancer too, just not so frequently thankfully.

No doubt that men get breast cancer. But Femama is an institute set up for female breast cancer. I don't see your point.

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In what can be only described as an outstanding achievement Lisa Trotter has broken 31 records !

I agree Andy... in todays technology surely general monitoring is the norm???? Even I read in disbelief that the engine pings are hourly... Is there soooo much data being streamed that the pings have to be 60 mins?? Make it 10min with a lat /long and we would have been looking in the right place two or three weeks ago IMHO.. A lot of manpower in the wrong place as it turns out on several occasions...

I think the misunderstanding originated from a person who probably had at least some technical knowledge of the satellite link breefing a journalist who, of course, was technically illiterate and he / she dubbed them "engine pings".

Buried amongst a whole bunch of irrelevant garbage about deleted files: "...senior U.S. counterterrorism officials say that an accident is the leading operative theory...".

A possibility. In any case I personally think that one or both of the pilots have acted maliciously is very unlikely.

something, anyway... could be a shipping container as well. all parts are crossed hoping for a good outcome!

Two objects located linked to MH370: PM

I hope that they are not being premature. There is some sort of press conference scheduled for 04:30UTC.

An article:

How Flight 370 Could Have Become a Zombie

This is the sort of analysis that should be occurring. And, by searching south and west of Australia, I think that this is the sort of analysis that the NTSB / ATSB / AMSA have applied.

Read the report. The crew asserted control over the aircraft and continued to navigate. Only then did they transmit. The is the correct procedure. Subsequently, they requested airspace.

Until the crew can aviate and navigate there is no point in communication with the ground. What are they going to do?

The first 1h45mins will be spent on the dumb asse5 trying to find it

QF2 sent out a PAN call. Passengers have phones, and there's precendent for passenger calls from aircraft in trouble.rgmwa

The last reported position of the plane was 90nm - approx 170 Km - from the eastern shore of Malaysia. Not good for cell phones. In any case, in the event of some catastrophic it is very rare for passengers to make a call.

I'm inclined to agree although the lack of any distress calls from either of the pilots (or passengers) while the plane was being turned around, despite indications that the comms equipment was still working at the time, is puzzling. Wherever it finished up, I don't think anyone on board was still alive.rgmwa

The passengers had no comms.

Now they're saying:

 

[/url]"we don't know when the Acars was switched off."

 

Investigators have said the radio sign-off by the co-pilot occurred roughly in the middle of the 30-minute period between scheduled Acars transmissions. The executive said the signaling system, known as Acars, could have been disabled "any time" between its last normal data transmission, at 1:07 a.m., and half an hour later, when the next message was supposed to go out, but didn't.

 

 

 

MAS has really no idea or just playing with the media? I keep hoping somehow it wasn't the pilots fault, they just don't seem to come across as the jihadi type...

 

 

 

I don't believe the hijack or rogue hypothesis. I believe that the pilots turned the plane around after some onboard catastrophe and then expired. The plane would then have continued on course over Sumatra and out into the Indian Ocean.

Cut and paste from article.....Authorities have said someone on board the plane first disabled one of its communications systems - the Aircraft and Communications Addressing and Reporting System or ACARS - at 1.07am.

About 14 minutes later, the transponder, which identifies the plane to commercial radar systems, was also shut down.

 

The fact they went dark separately is strong evidence the plane's disappearance was deliberate.

It now appears that the last acars message was sent at 01:07. The next message was due at 01:37 but was never received. This means that it was possible that the acars and transponder went off at 01:21 and after the last voice communication at 01:19.

This means that some sort of equipment failure is possible.

The information about the acars comes from Malaysian airlines.

Maj,Well the 777 if it had a failure like QF32 & knocked out all the communications landed perfectly in the ocean like the US airways one did in the Hudson river and quietly sank to the bottom leaving no wreckage, so instead of looking for wreckage we should be looking for 240+ pax sitting on the escape slide life rafts.

 

If she went in hard there would be bit's and pieces floating everywhere and with the amount of countries searching and the resources used I am sure something would have been found by now.

 

Me thinks something a wee bit more sinister happened and it is in another ocean a long way from where they are looking or it is crashed in a jungle somewhere in remote Vietnam.

 

I could be wrong, I probably am wrong and I have been wrong before.

 

Time will tell eventually one hopes especially for the families of the souls onboard.

 

Alf

I'll bet now they make it that the transponder can NOT be turned off that easily.That is one thing you wouldn't want to be easily disconnected anyway.

The thing I do not understand is why was the only primary radar track from the Malaysian airforce? If nothing else there are a number of civil primary radars in the area over, and to the west of Malaysia which should also pick up partial primary tracks.

And interesting article which gives an over view of the SkyLines Web site and how it can score and work with XCSoar for real time tracking.