Teckair

Fair point. But, with respect, that's a bit like saying that unless you can afford a Mercedes Benz OR you are willing to take the extra risk riding a motorcycle then you shouldn't be allowed to drive on public roads. Is the joy of flying only reserved for the rich or the intrepid (or more importantly their families) that are happy to take on the risk of grass roots flying?Apologies for the thread drift.

It's a common problem mate people will put pressure on you to go flying just to give them something to look at. Never allow people to pressure you to go flying against your better judgement. Stick to your guns, go flying when it feels right for you.

Richard.

The same old question still applies why should the people who only wanted affordable flying be forced to help pay for this mess that has been imposed on them? The AUF was never set up to deal with what we now have. The Tech Managers job would seem to be mission impossible going on the way a long line of them have suddenly disappeared.

Cavet: The pilot may have been attempting a forced landing following an emergengy (engine failure or such) and if that is the case then what bad luck and I hope both make a speedy recovery (I hope they make a speedy recovery in any case) or,Here we go again - how many more people are going to be injured or killed (the pilot is one thing but the passenger is another altogether) breaking the rules. It is time that the authorities (RAA or CASA) started removing licences for 1, 2, 5 years or life for pilots who blatently break the rules.

 

It is time that instructors started bashing it into pilots heads that you don't fly below 500 feet (AGL) or you will loose your licence (or worse your life). In this case as the pilots father owned the land 250 feet may have been applicable, even if this were the case 11kV power lines are usually run at around 10 metres and I can't see any terrain around the area that would have these lines any different than normal.

 

The pilot may have had low level training and if that is the case the golden rules are be 5 feet or 200 feet off the ground (I'm unsure of the rules regarding passengers & low level flight).

 

It is time the aviation community woke up, if you keep doing dumb SH.T eventually you will come undone and kill yourself or worse someone else. We need as a group and individuals to keep telling people who break the rules that they are doing the wrong thing and they are jeopardising not only their lives (or others) but also recreational avaition as a whole and if they don't take any notice report them, you may not be popular but this is not a popularity contest it is about safety.

 

Teckair said:

 

It should have read "What was this idiot doing down here"

G`Day Richard It`s more of a pity that they hit the power lines,in the first place!Here`s another reason to stay well above power lines!

 

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Frank.

 

Ps, I have permission from the pilot to post this photo, as a reminder to others

A pity about the title of this thread "Ultralight injures 2 in Mackay"

The ultralight was not the cause of the injuries.

I have a GA licence and plane (Experimental) and have had NO hassles. No annual Rego bill or membership fees and now a RAA style medical as well.Cheers

Still haven't seen any reasons why CASA governance would be bad... (just curious why other people don't want it. I have my own reasons)

I like your optimism Shags, you should become a farmer!

Hi All,Just got to thinking. Noone seems to want a move to CASA for governance of what we do. Just to pose a question: Why is that YOU do not want to be governed by CASA?

I suggested to hubby that the cockpit be lined with a high density cushioning/lining. Also the idea of a helmet sits fine with me (wonder why???) I am wondering if there is anyway I can post the story of our experience in this site? I have photos too and think it would be an interesting read. Thanks for your support guys, really needing it at the moment as the "it really happened and wasn't a dream" blues have set in.

Tecky,If they had declared that I'm sure that all other aircraft would have made way for them, as the Unicom did on Friday for an aircraft that became low on fuel while holding for the airshow.

 

I'm sure I don't have to tell you all that a straight-in on 22 means that those aircraft were flying through the aircraft on downwind for 11, (let alone at the intersection of 11 and 22) ....... and while they maybe would have been at different elevations when on approach and downwind, nobody can be certain of who is where and at what height in such circumstances and the displaced threshhold on 22 probably makes it worse. Particularly with some of the quicker GA aircraft that were around and may have been on a wider than normal downwind.

 

The key point, IMHO, is that the aircraft calling straight-in have no rights and it is dumb to do it at such an event, radio or no radio, unless it is an emergency.

 

Regards Geoff

Richard.

Can you imagine if attitudes like this prevailed at Oshkosh or Sun-and-Fun in the United States? It simply would not be tolerated. I hope someone had some "quiet words" to the two Jab pilots after landing.

First photos from the factory in the UK of my new Thrusterhttp://alicekatherinececiledavid.blogspot.com.au/

Rubbish...pilots who can't handle them should !.............................The 108 Voyager is not what I would call a gutbusting taildragger, lack of proper pilot training I would suggest here.........................................Maj...

Doesn't it suck that more than 50% of americans surveyed believed it was a hoax..

There could have been a number of reasons for what happened over loaded, density altitude, down on power etc. After you open the tap a glance at the tacho is a good idea, down on revs more than a little bit abort the take off.

When I saw this I could not understand why the pilot did not abort that take off.

Scary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDu0jYiz-v8

Not being a glider pilot I won't judge...

The decisions you make early on will determine how successful you are. A lot can be learned from this example of what not to do.

Jim Cuthill Boxwood vic (near Benalla) has a caravan for students/pilots/guests.$150hr for flight time only (no charge for warm up or ground school etc..) thruster t500.. a wealth of knolage and a genuine great bloke.

03 58286428 And I believe he would be very keen to talk to you also Ian..He is keen to get aquainted with the forrum.

Absolutely you do and we intend to have the suggestions with options published in advance in the Sport Pilot mag with the reasons supporting them and put to the Board as a special resolution at the AGM.

All this talk of not having a choice of landing in the street in a Sailplane... I thought the first principle of being a good Sailplane pilot was always being ready to carr y out a safe out landing?I reckon he made a mistake, and then I guess he made up for it by walking away from what was a no options high speed and desperate landing in a fairly congested area. Luckily there were no pedestrians on the footpath.

IMO

To my way of thinking an out landing should be done on an appropriate clear area not on a road in a built up area.

Yep nothing is impossible. Assumptions are the mother of screw ups.