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Heard today that this was apparently a forced landing after engine failure

Pilot and PAX were/are badly injured.

looks like not to bad a place for a forced landing, but it would only take one rabbit hole to flip the plane. I hope they recover quickly. It will be interesting to hear the full story.

or is it just me?

I'm getting an error message. Does anyone know of an alternative?

thanks

Their processes are based on an exceptional standard of logic, eg some of the rail stations process up to four million people per day, and when a train comes in, a lot of people are walking up the stairs. One night I suddenly realised the stairs were 20 people wide, and ten rows were walking up the left side and ten rows were walking down the right side, and we were walking in each others' footsteps as a unit; shifted a huge volume of people in minutes. The best person I ever worked with was a Japanese who was very logical and smart as a whip. About 8:30 one morning I got a call from a body builder in Brisbane wanting a quote on a truck, to suit his tilt-slide tray, for the Pakistani Army. I didn't know what the Pakistani truck specification was (no ADRs for a start, even which side the steering wheel was, so I took down what he could tell me which wasn't a lot other than the tender closed in Pakistan at 4 pm that day (Australian time). A couple of other truck manufacturers had just quoted Australian RHD models (not even close to spec). I told the customer we would be back to him, and emailed my short list to my friend in Tokyo. About 30 minutes later I got a phone call from the customer: "JESUS! he said; I got this email from someone in Japan starting with "G'Day mate", and asking a whole lot of questions; what do I do?" "Answer them" I said, "then he'll get back to me, and I'll send the quote to you. He got his tender in for a LHD truck to Pakistani road regulations and Pakistani Army specifications by the deadline, just about an impossible job but for the systematic and focused processing.

With toxic smoke in the cabin I agree completely with flying yawed with cabin vents/windows open - and if you have time to think about it, it works best if the venting side ports are more open than the pressure side, .............

Am I the only one thinking "fire extinguisher"?

yeah my one experience with smoke in the jab cockpit I put it down pronto; I don't ever want a repeat of that.

as a jab pilot, I'd really like to know what caused a fire to break out in the cockpit.

it says "a fire broke out in the cockpit", every pilot's nightmare. I hope he makes a full recovery.

remind me to never fly a Cirrus, it sounds like it's a tricky, unforgiving plane.

gee, do you really need to practice forced landings over that tiger country? Coward that I am, I practice in a place that is much more benign if I had a real engine failure

great news that he's OK; when I'm on final I make darn sure I'm well above those powerlines, never flown at night, which would make it a lot trickier.

note to self: next time on a trans-Pacific ferry flight, check that fuel supply is OK from all tanks, all valves working, early in the flight.

Not that I'm likely to take the jab across the pacific any time soon.

My wife saw your post and suggested she wasn't lucky, just obviously competent. You didn't read Tillmanr above.

she stopped right at the traffic lights. Very lucky.

on Pprune it's said that he has ruptured eardrums

there's an extensive thread on this on Pprune. The pilot did a fantastic job, with many instruments unreadable, and a freezing high-speed blast of air into the cockpit. 

At first glance, they look very similar to a Qantas tail.

Shirley he didn't hate Qantas inflight service so much that he sought revenge against an airframe?

"he had to land the plane manually"!!!!!!

I'm sure he was stressed, did a great job under the circs etc, but what can I say? We all do this every day; surely he does the same as often as possible. I'd congratulate him for responding appropriately to the emergency, not for hand-flying a landing.

can you tell us what make/model charger was involved?

I had a car battery explode in my face once. My own silly fault: it was fully charged and bubbling, and I disconnected the charger leads without turning it off. I had acid dripping down my face. Luckily I wear glasses so none got in my eyes. I'm more careful now.

here:

Nocookies

it says:

"Mr Joyce, then the Coalition transport minister, had agreed with Mr Albanese, his Labor counterpart, about removing a key part of the act that requires CASA to “regard safety as the most important consideration” in regulating the industry. Under the changes, CASA would instead be required to prioritise the “highest level of safety in air navigation” with the need for “an efficient and sustainable Australian aviation industry”."

I've written to my MP commending the changes to him, and I suggest we all think about that.

I know the guys that operate that set up, trust me $2.5K seems a lot but maint a P40 is slightly more than a sh2tbox Cessna!!

$2500 for a Kittyhawk flight....I might be able to get ministerial approval for that if it's birthday and xmas presents for the next 10 yrs.....

on my bucket list is to go on a flight in a warbird eg Spitfire, Hurricane, Mustang, but to be honest there are lots of planes that would do. Has anyone done this in our neck of the woods (Oz, NZ) and if so, any recommendations?

thanks