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24 minutes ago, skippydiesel said:

Very interesting. I suspect , many of the phantom roads you are referring to, are actually surveyed and likly appear on Council maps/plans.

 

The big question is; when Google shows what looks to be a nice runway is it true/false??

 

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That's what those Ersary things are for.

..........."bullie", which was to dog him all his life because he was ...........

bull, of course had made his money with the bone mango, vegetable and other ets corporation ay which he had founded after arriving in bone with the seat out of his pants except for 12 radish seeds in a surviving pocket.

I've flown BUN; hit a flock of galahs coming in to land at Cootamundra. If you have to throw an aircraft at a golf course, you couldn't get a better airctraft to help you.

........large Greec Flag trailing behind so low that it appeared to cut the land in two.

Of course, within a few hours there were AI imitations of this where the flag was Austrian, Italian, Canadiern, Frence, Russiane, and even Mongrellian.

Then there were the AI aircraft variants including Da Vinchy's's flying machine and then under the guise of "Rod's Page, or Ken's Page, or Dominic's page, a variety of odd aircraft, and even one headed bull's page, with a Greec bull running in front of a Tasmanian flag. It looked like his thru-bolt was about to fail and just as Turbo shouted a warning ............ 

.......reading up on Scorates whom he'd never seen quoted, even in the Library of Alexandria, which he visited regularly.

The first thing he found was that Sco maintained that he'd designed the original Jackaroo.

This showed that the ancient Greeks possessed the skill of time-travel.

The enigma was if you were skilled at time-travel, why would you go out in the cold to the airport, fix the leaks and go flying in a XXXXXXX Jackaroo?

Sco (after a quick trip from ancient times) ...........

One day segments; long trips can be through multiple, and different, weather sequences, and sometimes different every 2 or 3 hours.

.....locked so cute, and handily shut down the usual spittle flow that was the main hazard when talking to that lot.

Turbo always carried a "CC Free Pass" which dated from a time when he was driving in the outback and came across a distressed C-C beside his broken down Harley. He was out of food and about to consume the last of his water, and had written a note which even Scorates would have had a problem reading. Turbo didn't do the unthinking "Gotta problem mate?"

 Instead he fed the C-C with steak and caviar washed down by a Penfolds Grange, which was all he was carrying, and kicked the old Harley over a few times. He recognised the problem immediately - broken gugeon pin and piston, so he cut a bit off the end of one of the Land Cruiser's mounting bolts, cut off the bottom of the Grange Bottle, used some "never fail" putty to make bosses, washed out the Harley and replaced the oil with genuine Toyota synthetic 15w30 oil and she fired first kick. Aside from the CC Free Pass which has saved Turbo on numerous occasions when he couldn't help saying "How are they hanging girls!" he gets one free Clubroom entry voucher every year when "Gary" as we'll call him (he's wanted by QPS) writes to report another cylinder rebuilt each year, but the "Turbo Grange" still holding 148 and running flawlessly.

It was at one of these free nights that Turbo......................

........flying [AVR.EF] start.

Then the bikies from Henty arrived dressed in ................

Mention of Steve-of-Loxley brings back memories of how the NES got this site off the ground and into mainstream high-volume use. It was Steve's question "When you are building a plane out of beer  cans, do you have to empty them first. The over - 1500 answers set the tone for the next decade  

......was doing another BOB balancing dance, where the gin accumulated during the day had him swaying and swerving to Midnight Oil's ............

11 hours ago, pmccarthy said:

Like many models these days, the Bristell can be registered GA or RAAus. It is the identically same plane, with the same high build standards and equipment.

Just did a search and found 11 on the VH Register - all listed as Bristell S-LSA.

The missing aircraft 23 2180 is also claimed to be  a Bristell S-LSA but is not shoing in the RAA Register as of today.

1 hour ago, onetrack said:

I understand it was a factory built aircraft, as all Bristells are. Plus, it was almost new. One would expect the machines reliability to be pretty foolproof.

You should have a look at some new products going through dealer delivery; plenty of opportunities in a system which is not operating on the same reliability level as GA. We wanted the aircrtaft cheap so we could afford them; they haven't been through the same build procedure or processing procedure etc.

3 hours ago, Love to fly said:

Seriously, particularly if he was planning to fly high, there is nothing odd about a straight track across Bass Strait.   Not recommended, but not illegal or uncommon. 

People who have never had an engine failure usually never plan for one, and you read in the newspapers they were killed by a "freak" event/breakage/failure that had never happened before; if we are talking about home builts, a lot of things can fail, so just for interest, if we decided the glide area between Georgetown in the south and Leongatha in the north (for the exercise we'll forget about the nearest landable surfaces and we pick the midway point where we stop doing a 180 turn to bo back and start opting to land straight ahead), in your aircraft what altitude would you need to be flying?

The next question would be what would be the expected cloud ceiling for the flight.

I don't know how many people know the glideslope for the aircrtaft they are flying but I'd huess less than 100%.

The reason for the recommended routes are that for most flights based on the weather forecast you will be able to plop on to solid ground from a relatively low altitude if an emergency occurs.

Not illegal

Not it's not; we left the era where an authority would "outlaw" something and people would claim millions for their lost parent because the rules missed a minor point.

Today you have the duty of care for the safety of anyone you carry or hit etc. so you decided, and history tells us that if you don't want to lose the farm, you better be relying on a legally sustantive point.

Not recommended

This allows authorities to point out the danger, and since you have the Duty of Care you need to find something to ptotect yourself. Industry Safety Standards are a good place to start looking, and following Industry recommendations is a very good idea. 

Not uncommon

One of the most common Bass Strait  crossers was an overnight freight Bristol Freighter. One night the engine failed and the pilot went down, never to be found.

So sure people have made multiple crossings, one guy has even paddled a surfboard across, but again, you are the one that owes a duty of care; it's your pocket.

On 09/08/2025 at 7:11 PM, onetrack said:

It really is quite amazing that no wreckage of any kind has shown up in more than a week after they took off, along with the intensity of the search. That seems to indicate the aircraft stayed pretty intact upon arrival into the water.

or that it went down over bush, or that. Also, on a "search for a drink bottle/seat cushion or other floating item", Bass Strait is vast, but based on the pilot's odd "Straight Through" there are two lost of islands they could eventuall be washed up on and someone might eventually happen to walk there. Historically in the Bass Strait ditchings nothing is found more often than something is found.

.......feature. When the barbs went in bull danced like a Sailfish..........................

..........feet.

bull had always been embarrased by his oversized feet, and he cracked a prawner's joke to distract her.

Big mistake; Const. Doubtfire slapped the cuffs on him, biffed him with the truncheon to soften him up then tased him on his ...............

Wings of the Drifters; immediately there was a big increase in performance, but it was noted that performance fell off quickly, and many finished up in swamps and gulleys until bull came up with and "Uppers" pocket in his flying suit.

Being an exhibitionist, bull walked into a pub one night. The "Uppers" label on his pocket (bull labelled everything) attracted Constable Doubtfire who was there to celebrate a birthday and ...................................

.......YMEDs followed by ..............

......."I demonstrated what could go wrong in an AUF start, and how to handle this quite frequent cause of lost mates, lost arms, lost legs and lost dogs."

Cappy innocently posted this inciudent and advice on the AUF website, hoping he could save a few souls, but the attacks started with that eloquent quote "I tort meself to fly......." followed by a vicious barrage of .............

......pretended to be snoozing or totally absorbed in tghe swirling trails of their cocktails, and then someone announced the Mangalore two-step......................................

https://www.1001crash.com/aviation-video-avion_fou-lg-2-nobody-onboard-nobody-can-stop-plane.html

19 minutes ago, onetrack said:

The search is winding down and the Tasmanian Police will soon turn the case into a "missing persons" crime case. 

 

The fact that not a single piece of wreckage or flotsam has been sighted seems to indicate the aircraft entered the water in a flat spin, typical of the "unrecoverable" Bristell spin.

I believe this would lead to the aircraft tending to stay in one piece, as compared to a more destructive high angle approach to the water. 

No matter what the approach angle, the crash would disable the occupants, by losing unconsciousness at the very least, and I doubt whether they could recover or escape before they drowned

 

A witness has verified the dog was not being nursed in the passengers lap, so it must have been secured behind the seats - thus making the "dog interference with controls" scenario much less likely.

All that remains for crash reasons, is medical incapacitation, or sudden and catastrophic in-flight breakup, possibly at relatively low level, stopping the chance of any Mayday.

 

Search for missing light plane enters sixth day - Tasmania Police

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The search for a missing light plane and the two people on board is resuming for a sixth day, with a Tasmania Police helicopter crew today conducting searches off the north coast of Tasmania. Pol Air has been...

 

Plus going down in the bush from Georgetown or possibly Gippsland.

The lack of electronic communication given the pilot's reputation and expected skill level could mean an electrrical or comms failure., and as fantastic as this aircraft looks, it still had a Rotax standard engine, assembly etc and LSA equipment so there's still the chance of an unexpected engine-out, ditching without a break up and quick sinking.

The RA mattress men are the only two recovered alive from a Bass Strait forced landing/crash.

.......Rock Star with a string of hits starting with Rock around the flock, Dyno Rock, These teeth were made for eatin and many more.

His claws produced a metallic twang which would be revived thousands of years later as ...................

.....all dynosaurs could gather, have a few drinks of water and lay back in the sun.

All they found though was a human wearing nothing but a fig leaf, singing Janis Joplin songs and ...........

5 hours ago, facthunter said:

I don't see a cage as a necessary requirement G of G wise. Some restraint is another matter. (interfere with control movement).. Pets are being allowed on commercial flights more and more. Nev

If you remember Startibartfast lost control of his Morgan with a 15 kg toolbox added. A 25 kg dog that decides to move in a 600 KG MTOW, i.e. NOT the Commercial aircraft you mention, is going to make a significant difference depending where he/she finished up.

Hiowever, in this case there's nothing to say the aircraft didn't just have an engine out and went down after perhaps a successfulk ditching, nor is there anything to say it wasn't a medical episode.

45 minutes ago, BurnieM said:

I have 2 x 10kg Jack Russells and I know their temperment pretty well.

I plan to take them for short test flights to get them acustomised before any longer trips.

I also plan to fit anchor points for their harnesses to limit their movement in bad turbulence.

 

In the list of things that could have gone wrong the dog freaking out is not in my top 10.

 

A Jack Russell weighs about 6-8 Kg but the loose term "mid-sized dog" would put it around 20 - 24 kg, so needing to be in a cage to ensure not going out of the envelope of a 600 kg MTOW airctraft.

.....sober, and that was no fun at all. After all, how would you like to have to walk around in swamps, naked, just eating weeds.

One day Dyno, who was the leader of the pack said "...................