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I'm not sure, but it could possibly be as a result of fatalities of Instructors when doing them in non-CASA aircraft.

I've definitely seen a report on one, possibly two, going back a few years but eventually a decision based on risk may have kicked in.

Unfortunately the question of training has been raised; certainly at the conclusion of a full training course with satisfactory industry benchmark pass figures that's a good tick of responsibility, but behaviour is a risk factor.

7 hours ago, Captain said:

..... most of the Vegas Headliner Has-Beens were also flying Thrusters.

 

Rod and Wayne bought the latest Mk 4 side-by-side versions because they are big enough to take their walking frames with the oxygen bottles still strapped on, so the Thruster could be enjoyed by .......

....anyone except those who had been cremated, because they'd lost the ability to control the aircraft and wouldn't listen to instructions, even from Epaulette.

North Las Vegas Airport was a hive of acitvity every Saturday morning as the glitterati arrived with a trailer load of Ultralight parts and some could still be seen in the afternoons trying a tube here or there or there, or trying to start the Blueheads before calling "Bluehead Bernie" who helped out every time with his ratchet gun.

By late afternoon there were Ultralights downed in every second street of Vegas as famous people misjudged the fuel consumption.

By evening ...............................

Not many people know that Howard Hughes was the first person to build an Utralight. He tried to build one out of gold. His mistake was rushing into the protect without checking the weight of the material. He managed to make a beautiful streamlined cylinder, and even overcame the fuelage blowups when the Las Vegas pilots took them to 30,000 feet because "That's the height I always fly at". What he couldn't solve was the tendency of the Hughes U2 to nose over and plop down off the edge of the runway unless to rotated at 200 kts or more.

Note that this hearing is still in progress.

NOx has been reduced in motor vehicles since the 1976 model year in Australia via the Australian Design Rule system and had been reducing to 1992 when major reductions started because it is one of the causes of Lung Cancers.

Since 1992 in Australia we have reduced NOx in new vehicles by 99.4% on the 1992 figures.

We pay a lot of money for this on new vehicles, and it would be interesting to see if there were any statistics on a parallel reduction in lung cancers.

On 07/02/2024 at 8:29 PM, BrendAn said:

This is nothing compared to some forums. The story is all over the net. Do you think I am making up the story about the instructor. I spoke to him a couple of months ago.

You take a big risk working on the advice of "some forums".

The comments posted below are a good example of where the flame can go, and it looks like it's going to go a lot further than that.

Nose down into the ground before it reached the runway.

That's two that didn't make the end of the runway in a month.

.......was so popular that he was signed for a six months Residency at the pub, which put him in the same bracket as current Las Vegas Headliner Residencies Rod Steward, Adele, Wayne Newton, Donny Osmond and Garth Brooks.

Theth flew a Thruthter at the weekends when he could get away without having to glue on all those feathers, and it wasn't long before ................

.....firth in the family throng enough to fly from Thepparton to New Thouth Waleth under my own power."

This was greeted by hoots in the local pub that night and so he was forced  to superglue his feathers one and .......................

5 minutes ago, Garfly said:

To me they did all they could have done.  They were very unlucky to have that cabal of public servants throw a spanner in their works at the last hurdle. 

In fact, the 'main issue' of this thread extends to the region.

From the Original Post

Let's put it this way; if you want to post a letter, you don't go to the pub.

There was no last hurdle because there was no horse race.

I've read the above linked documents.

I don't believe there was anything there that would normally be used to get an airport going.

It was a case of talking to the wrong people and not understanding the correct process.

The people they contacted should have been more forthright and it wouldn't have extended the way it did.

However, the main issue here is Goulburn Airport.

3 minutes ago, Ian said:

But that's what I was saying. It's already an industrial power generation site.

It's in the corner of the ACT.

To the east is NSW who are in a totally different electorate.

To the south is NSW.

So the nimbys shouldn't have anyone with decision making powers to complain to.

 

I had a browse through the website and it looks like it progressed a fair way before going off the rails. Someone spent a lot of time trying to make this work, but it might be marginally healthier than a Norwegian blue.

 

Development Applications (DA), like their equivalents in every other State and Territory are processed and approved or rejected by Local Government i.e. the local Council.

Where someone is not happy with the Council decision on the property, they have the right to take the matter to the State Tribunal. At the Tribunal they can only raise matters which contravene the Planning Scheme, or don't fit the description - for example a Church 90 metres tall designed for 600 people has a scale too great for a green belt area.

Where the State is concerned about a completely inappropriate development, the Minister for Planning can "Call In" the DA before the Tribunal Hearing starts, and rule it out or in following a process which in some cases includes setting up a Planning Panel to hear the matter and report back to the Minister, who makes the final decision.

Based on that, the location of this site is unilkely to somehow be influenced by either the NSW Government or ACT Government or Federal Government.

No one has mentioned a DA in relation to Williamsdale, so maybe someone has the bull by the horns, which often happens.

The State or Territory sets its broad Planning Scheme; how they want the State/Territory to look, with all the parts fitting together, and the Commonwealth Government doesn't step into matters of each Sovereign State.

....a shy ..........

When Icarus heard this he gained the strength to fly forward,

He'd reached Jamaica by the time Jacqui showed up; Cappy, always a copier had stuck his own feathers on with Gorilla Glue.

The problem was they were turkey feathers and he only had a one pack and that was all down.

Jacqui ..................

No that's the correct order, but so many people try to start downwind so to speak.

"Maaate!"(This was of course the classic Greek address, brought to Melbourne by Fish & Chip operators, as in MAAAATE, you're ten cents short! or Maate if you were a taxi driver) "Can you help me put some of this Gorilla Grip on? What he didn't know was that he was addressing a young One Tick, dressed in shorts, held up at the Tick Gate at Ceduna, and with the attitude of all young sand gripers. "How come you've got a Cotton On G String?" he asked. "Maaate!, I was told to dress up when I came to Victoria' we normally don't wear anything, ust let it all hang out; you've probably seen out statues. They are not full size of course because the wimpy Greek Parliament limited the size you can publicly display on a statue; You should have seen the real David!"

One Tick started attaching the feathers with Gorilla Grip.

The problem was that One Tick was a budding Ornithologist, and every time he picked up a feather he spent time lifting it to feel the weight and texture, spinning it around to get the right shape, turning it over to get the lighter colour to the bottom - pretty much like a recreational plane kit builder - anything except finishing the project.

A burst of wind on the stcky glue forced the feathers to all point forward and although Icarus noticed it, the glue was now too hard to reset them.

He was about to become a two - time loser as he turned, walked to the edge of the cliff and ............

17 minutes ago, danny_galaga said:

E=MC²

I'd be getting that flying machine finished; we already have thousands of academics.

I'll pull the very basic data so people can do their own calculations.

2 minutes ago, facthunter said:

Till the torque curve starts to dip a lot more revs will give more POWER, but high(er) revs is more friction..   Nev

The power curve is a product of the torque curve.

Friction is a power demand function.

This is the latest VFRG.pdf.  (April 2024)WX00292.pdfWX00292.pdfWX00292.pdf

Non Controlled Aerodromes is covered from Page 238 (The page counter is running 12 pages ahead, so type 250.

It shows the circuits for various aircraft.

Have you guys bumping this done a Visual Flight Rules Guide safety assessement for this field?

The attached Google Earth view of the airfield is N = up, and the distance tool shows 1.6 km west to the road for scale.

By my calculations a Jabiru J230-D  will be tracking downwind 1.48 km out from the RWY centreline and 1.48 km north off the northern end.

By the same calculations an A-AIR/503 will be tracking 1.17 km out from the RWY centreline and 1.17 km off the northern end.

.........falling to the ground as the wax melted from all their hot air.

Cappy had a little flutter too but all that Bombay curry ensured he remained non aerodynamic because at that moment along came......

............"He's one of us Thethil" and the three of them climbed aboard the monster ultralight.

Those who witnessed the take off that day say ............................................

[Cappy had picked up the old CIA code sending a message in clear sight to his fellow embedded agents, but we can't tell you what it is]

6 hours ago, BrendAn said:

I should have said 912 fires which is the engine we are talking about, not V8 cars .

They all have carbies not only on top of the engine but sitting in the V.

But they are V8 cars of course, so we need to translate to 912.

If you want to put a carby on top of a 912 you just need a flame-proof drain tube exiting below the engine and outside the cowl.

What's a lot more important is to ensure air intake filters are not flammable. A good backfire into the air filters loved by the aftermarket are good for a 2 metre high flame.

23 minutes ago, BrendAn said:

I have mentioned this plane before, 

He made his own EFI and retained the carbys. They are dry but if the EFI fails he pulls a cable and sends fuel to the carbs . He does not like carbys on top of an engine. I have not read of fires from flooded carbs though I guess it is possible.

Have a look at a V8 some time.