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On 19/04/2024 at 9:50 PM, 10.5 said:

There is a pre existing covenant which specifies that it remain an airport.

Is there a public copy of the covenant?

Often the Council will not publish it, claiming its commercial, in confidence, but sometimes on important matters it will be attached to the documents to be passed at a meeting.

I'm not sure what it's legal standing will be if the operator no longer owns the property, but a lawyer would.

30 minutes ago, Garfly said:

 

No, I'm quoting 10.5's post:

 

 

TKS

13 hours ago, Garfly said:

I got the impression that a buy-back isn't even on the cards.

The hope being that the "pre-existing covenant" (that YGLB remains) will be honoured into the future.

Have you got any details of this covenant?

3 hours ago, 10.5 said:

You make a very good point about Councils and in Goulburn’s case there are very many serious questions to be asked. Unfortunately when one asks, The doona is pulled over the head as pudgy little grasping fingers are firmly stuck into already deaf ears.

The Council's involvement in this airport was several years ago. It's unlikely the Ratepayers would be interested in paying retail price today, which is what will be asked here.

.......smacked him in the teeth. Pink was no fool, visiting the ice cream shop at Seaford on a regular basis, and she knew a fake autograph when she saw one.

"He's been dead for 34 years" she said pointing ..........................

.....mascot....on the front mudguard of her Harley.

For three days CT suffered massive tyre burn in the sensitive area, until he .................

.........Vic Government's "We may be broke, but we'll give you a free $20.00 voucher if you hire a Dragger", that's the way it is in the proud female-led State of Vic.

We can tell you who it is because that would embarrass him, but Turbo has always said "Even $20.00 adds to the bottom line. Turbo had agreed, but CT was beginning to regret giving up his Camo because way too many bunnies could spot him a mile off and would stand on their hind legs and do one of Pink's iconic dances, the movement threw his aim off and his bounty tally was down by $2500.00 per Month.

CT.....................

1 hour ago, jackc said:

NOT having a licence or registration does not affect your ability to operate. 
 

When you're telling a story it always pays for the characters to stick to the narrative; reminds me of someone a while back on another site who denouncd CASA at every opportunity, boasted about his illegal deeds and how CASA would never know who it was and eventually posted a photo of his instrument panel .........with his registration on it. Several tousand posts disappeared overnight.

15 hours ago, Thruster88 said:

Sound like a very good event. Thank you to the sponsors. Not able to attend this time, look forward to the next one, 8 thrusters yes.

 

From the CEO

Fly'n For Fun Soars to Success at Parkes, NSW

Last weekend marked a truly remarkable and successful event as aviation enthusiasts from near and far gathered at Parkes, NSW, for Fly'n For Fun. This exhilarating occasion, made possible by the dedication and support of numerous individuals and organisations, showcased the best of aviation and community spirit.

At the heart of this extraordinary event stood our Principal Sponsor, the AMDA Foundation, whose unwavering support helped turn our vision into reality. Their commitment to fostering aviation excellence played a pivotal role in making Fly'n For Fun a resounding success.

In addition to the AMDA Foundation, we extend our deepest gratitude to our Platinum Sponsor OzRunways who sponsored breakfast for every pilot and passenger who flew in, and added significant value, ensuring a memorable experience for all attendees. Their partnership and enthusiasm for aviation were crucial in creating an unforgettable event for everyone involved.

We have received great feedback about the shuttle bus service that was offered to ferry people between the event site and the town of Parkes. We would like to thank ROTAX for their generous sponsorship, which allowed us to make this fantastic service free to all attendees.

Of course, our appreciation extends beyond our principal and platinum sponsors to encompass all our other sponsors and exhibitors. Your support and involvement enriched the event, providing attendees with unique insights and experiences that celebrated the diversity of aviation.

A special mention must be made to the HARS Aviation Museum for their invaluable contribution to the success of Fly'n For Fun. Their tireless efforts in developing the event site into a remarkable venue underscore their dedication to preserving aviation heritage and promoting the joy of flight. Witnessing the transformation of the site from a cow paddock to its current grandeur is a testament to the passion and hard work of everyone involved. HARS have more fantastic improvements planned for the site - stay tuned!

We also want to express our heartfelt gratitude to our members who attended the event. Your continued support to aviation is overwhelming and inspiring. Your presence and enthusiasm contributed immeasurably to the vibrant atmosphere of Fly'n For Fun.

As we reflect on the weekend's achievements, we are filled with excitement for the future of this event. With ambitious plans underway to further enhance the event site and expand its offerings, we are confident that this biennial gathering will continue to captivate aviation enthusiasts for many years to come.

Once again, we extend our heartfelt thanks to all our sponsors, exhibitors, partners, and members for their invaluable contributions. Your support has been instrumental in making Fly'n For Fun a highlight of the RAAus calendar, and we eagerly anticipate the continued growth and success of this fly-in.

Here's to many more years of flying high together!

Maxine Milera
CEO

Next target 16 Thrusters and some Drifters

12 hours ago, jackc said:

That, looks like a drum full of RAA Brown snakes 🤩 I have to ask, is RAAus on a witch  hunt, looking to ground aircraft?

Give members a hard time?  Being a member of a company is a problem?  
No wonder I believe we need FAR Part 103. 🤩

Their job is to administer specifications, building, flying operations. If anything they have been slack but the fatality rate has been down. They have to deal with all sorts of people. Last time there was a big audit was triggered by someone thinking he could fly without licence and reg and annoying other people. CASA did the audit and a lot of non complying aircraft went back into the sheds.

........hang out with .........

Airservices Australia

"All civil aircraft operating in Australia are required to comply with the Air Navigation (Aircraft Engine Emissions) Regulations 1995 regardless of size, purpose or ownership.

Responsibility for Regulatory compliance rests with the aircraft operator/owner to ensure their aircraft meets the Regulations."

In this link there's a further link to the Regulation.

https://www.airservicesaustralia.com/about-us/our-services/assessment-of-environmental-regulations-for-aircraft/air-navigation-aircraft-engine-emissions-regulations-1995-support-tool/

7 hours ago, BrendAn said:

i don't understand all your rego drama. how come every other hummelbird in the world gets registered but not yours. surely its not the only one in australia.

This was explained by Kasper on this site.

"...........at the nest World Championships she won 17 years out of 20 a row and I only won twice."

Not many people know that bull was also an accomplished pianist, entertaining many people at the RSL when he lived in Bone, and often touring western CQ towns with his instrument, following the trail of Slim Dusty. This was pretty hard on the Jacka and affected its WB dreadfully. Queenslanders used to line the local airfields after a bull performance just to see the jacka stagger into the air with a grand piano strapped to its back. Sometimes .............

5 minutes ago, BrendAn said:

my xair doesn't fit in part 103 but i just think its good idea and is gaining popularity elsewhere.

What does your Xair fit in?

The current situation is that Goulburn Airport is for sale; that's all at present.

Going over threads from 2009 to 2012 when the Council sold it and subsequent stories which pointed to industrialisation:

8 Recreational Aircraft and 1 Cessna apparently are no longer there.

9 Recreational Flying Members were lost to this site and perhaps RAA

So in 12 years, maybe that is the loss when an Airfield ceases to be a pure aviation precinct.

Because there's been no news since, those numbers could be greater; I know of one other who operates a GA Aircraft elsewhere.

In the bigger picture across Australia, it's worth taking a look at potential lost fields earlier than we do.

12 minutes ago, BrendAn said:

casa actually want part 103 from what i have heard but raa have been arguing against because it is a threat to their membership base which they rely on to fund the company.

and i should also say i am not a hater of raa even if it appears that way. i find the staff brilliant to deal with and passionate about aviation, i just think part 103 should be an option for those that want it.

its only going to be a small percentage of fliers anyway.

 

I did the work to bring our knowledge up to date on the Self Administering Organisations.

Maybe it's the Thruster and Drifter and the other classes guys who should be taking car of this sort of question - you know your sector.

2 minutes ago, BrendAn said:

so why does casa follow faa then

CASA is free to choose anything that works well from other countries, and it and its predecessors have done that.

In more recent years both CASA and FAA have changed regulations in line with ICAO and as a result the big gap between FAA and CASA is a lot less, and where people are comparing the rules they might remember, it pays to check both the current CASA regs and current FAA regs so see if they've changed to match ICAO.

1 minute ago, facthunter said:

I wonder if any of the top RAAus people have either. THEY pretty much ALL did when the AUF became the RAAus..Nev

Well in doing the research on the SASAOs I found some trends that indicate that skills in that area attract customers.

36 minutes ago, facthunter said:

RAAus  Certificate is NOT a licence either.    Nev

amended to Certificates or Licences.

This was supposed to be an inert thread just showing the current structures of  SASAOs and other organisations within the CASA structure.

3 minutes ago, jackc said:

So what you saying is, an unlicenced FAR Part 103 aviation sector is not respectable? Maybe I should pass your comment to EAA U.S. as a I am a member there, they can comment on the standing of Part 103 operations in the U.S.?

No, I'm not making any comments on an unlicenced FAR Part 103.

I'm commenting on Australia where we have our own regulations which we have to comply with.

That should be very clear from the heading of this thread.

What people do in other countries around the world is a matter for their jurisdictions.

3 minutes ago, jackc said:

But really, Australia has no idea on many things, just look around at the way we run many things here. 
In your opinion on many things, itsYOUR way…….or the highway?  Not very progressive, is it 🤢

5 hours ago, jackc said:

Looks like there could be some room for FAA FAR Part 103 🤩 SAFA?

These are respected groups and I wouldn't think any of them would be terribly interested in operating without licences or registrations or destabilising their supply lines by trying to bypass legitimate distributors.

18 minutes ago, 440032 said:

Why are some "Federations"? I can find a definition that fits aviation groups.

In each State or Territory and example might be:

There may be 26 Clubs in a race car Association representing race tracks.

There may be 15 Associations each representing a different class of car.

There may be 2 Associations representing Promotors who finance and manage events.

They may all be represented as a Federation by the combined Race Car Associations, Class Associations, Promotor Associations.

The Federation is the Peak Body beloved by Governments who only want to speak to one person, thus never understanding the breadth of any issue.

1 minute ago, jackc said:

RAAus grounded it from training 🤢 Some b/s they are trying to pull on me, that I need to sort out. And IF the crunch comes to the crunch……I have way to fix that too. 👍

I’d sort that out first.

2 minutes ago, facthunter said:

Learn in something similar then off you go for Pt 103 or just teach yourself (which I don't recommend).   With a bit of experience you'll manage it. Nev

Part 103 is in USA.

Here we fly the same aircraft in 95.10.