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Wings over Illawarra 2012

Canola!

What is going on here? Peppa Pig "Miss Rabbit the Rescue Pilot"

Locals on the job

Moments later (actually this was a different day)...

The drifter may require pre-heat to start. Clifton YCFN Autumn 2015. It was about -10C from memory so yes that is real frost.

Meanwhile, back on planet earth...

Edit in post #631 QANTAS recorded 4.34M available seats for international travel through Sydney. For the record I have flown into Wellcamp and had a coffee after landing. It did not cost me $66. Members of DDSAA and DDAC have landed at Wellcamp in light aircraft. It did not cost them anything like the number quoted in Post #630. As far as I can see, nobody has done this in order to support or express support for Wellcamp. Their support was demonstrated in other ways. Like saying "please" and "thank you" to Sara Hales for instance.

https://bitre.gov.au/statistics/aviation/international.aspx Total seats made available on international scheduled operations to/from Australia during September 2015 were 3.643 million – an increase of 1.1 per cent compared to September 2014. The overall seat utilisation percentage (including China Airlines, Emirates and Qantas passengers travelling through Australian ports) increased from 79.0 per cent in September 2014 to 82.6 per cent in September 2015. Emirates and QANTAS international seat availability accounted for 14% EACH of the total in Australia through Brisbane specifically. That is to say, each airline moved a shade under 1M international pax through Brisbane over the same FY 2014-2015, according to the BITRE. The answer for QANTAS international (how many billions) is ~1M pax for Brisbane and about 1.6M for Melbourne and a whopping 4.34M pax. There are other airports like Perth and Cairns but these are the big ones. Total for QANTAS international overall is therefore is 0.007 BILLION available seats within a small error. In the total of South East Asia, BITRE noted there were 8.638M seats available for the year and all airlines. SE. Asia is by far the most popular international trip for people's going to and From Australia. So without need of a really accurate estimate, 0.001-ish billion people are carried internationally by QANTAS through Brisbane which is almost irrelevant in comparison to the traffic through Sydney. The most important city pair for QANTAS is Auckland Sydney then Sydney Singapore closely followed by Singapore Melbourne, Singapore Perth then Auckland Melbourne. Brisbane Auckland is eight on the list. Top city pair all airlines for freight is Singapore Melbourne with Brisbane 6th on the list. Total airfreight for Australia for one year is around 1M tonnes Conclusions: QANTAS use big planes in slot constrained airports to move millions of people and thousands of tonnes of cargo between population centres annually. This requires dedicated infastructure and long term contracts with a number partners (ground handling, fuel, road transport, hotels, training, maintenance finance etc), implying a large sunk cost and high capital demand (actual real multiples of billions). Due to the size of these operations QANTAS and other airlines using the same infrastructure are neither agile nor protected from large unexpected changes in demand (SARS, 9/11 style terror fears, trade embargoes etc). However, the trend for freight and passenger movements internationally is generally up and is expected to be until another bombing/epidemic/volcanic eruption. Wellcamp does not operate in the same space as Brisbane and does not compete with slot constrained airports for custom, international or otherwise. Any organisation such as an airline that is itself agile and not in need of specialist infrastructure, for example their own check in desk or containerised freight handling would have already run their ruler over Wellcamp to determine the relative merits of similar facilities especially if their typical trip origin is west of the great dividing range. Brisbane does not have capacity to absorb a new airline for freight or passengers. Neither does Sydney. Freight and passenger numbers for all of Australia are huge. Wellcamp compares to Brisbane in the range of 1:1000 for passengers so the effect on Brisbane of doubling the number of passengers or freight through Wellcamp almost isn't measurable. Brisbane isn't Wellcamp. Wellcamp is irrelevant to Brisbane. Brisbane and Wellcamp are almost irrelevant to the total of international travel from Australia. Why do I need to count in Billions? Why fly to Wellcamp for a coffee when I can drive there? How many extra nurses will the $15M tax offset Wagners isn't paying actually pay for? Please provide references for each answer but do please answer, lest the audience be left to assume the poster is a fool by their stern silence by way of a reply.

I have no problem with Wellcamp. I am not the poster who is making predictions about the future performance of the asset.

VH-COA stored at Lanyon. Visiting YSCB presumably for bit of 100LL and a joy flight

Found this in the hangar one winter morning

It's not aviators of any ilk. One of us is not like the others... Also while I personally think a pressure group for (as in a"pro") recreational flying is a great idea, this is a hijacked thread about one poster's Fabianist visions for the entire country, rather than about a new airport or any good that might have already come from it in the way of jobs, sales tax, stamp duty or any other form of activity. The Darling Downs has over 60 active authorised landing areas (ALAs) of which YBWW is the most evident. The regional council owns Toowoomba, Pitsworth and Milmerran. Did I forget any? I am not just surprised. Also saddened that opinions can masquerade as facts and remain unchallenged. I personally strongly support all forms of free speech even when it ends in me being called an idiot, a liar and worse by troll(s) who has/have nothing to gain other than it keeps them breathing a bit longer. Welcome to the conversation. Pass the popcorn if you brought any.

On the subject of QIC, they own 25% of Brisbane Airport. Here is the breakdown: http://www.bne.com.au/corporate/about-us/our-company 17% Colonial First State Global Asset Management and related managed funds 4% Commonwealth Bank Group Super 13.8% IFM Infrastructure Funds 4.9% Motor Trades Association of Australia 15.1% National Asset Management Limited as Trustee for the Brisbane Airport Trust 25% QIC Limited 18.7% Amsterdam Airport Schiphol 1.5 % Sunsuper Pty Limited

How many extra Defence pilots, nurses and teachers does Australia need, where and when? Please provide references

How many extra Defence pilots, nurses and teachers does Australia need, where and when?

And now the Kerry Packer quote https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerry_Packer During the inquiry he repeatedly berated the politicians conducting it, and the government. When asked about his company's tax minimisation schemes, he replied: "Of course I am minimising my tax. And if anybody in this country doesn't minimise their tax, they want their heads read, because as a government, I can tell you you're not spending it that well that we should be donating extra!"

How many pilots are required, by when, and how will taxing the hospital admissions instead of the people using the airports pay for it?

The people who actually get on the planes to go back to their families and the pilots who fly them there, they want to know why a teachers' job is more important too

Fire services levy, stamp duty. All paid at some point

Rates, payroll tax and GST are paid by all or most involved. Do we need more nurses and teachers. If so, where and how many? The $96m for the Warrego was federal money so maybe it would have helped a bit there. Only $80-ish million to go...

Answering a question with a question. That would be my prediction, if I had to make one. Which I did, this time

...and the people who have money invested in the banks who loaned the money to the people like FKP who built the domestic terminal. They want to know too

Privately owned company builds a new asset and it runs at a loss for a time. The losses are counted against other profits for accounting purposes and to manage the risk of the new enterprise. Was there a point to the previous post? Tell us, we (and the people who have jobs because of Wagners directly and indirectly) forgot, again.

Predictions are not mine. I never predicted anything. Also which hangars should Wagners build, when and why?