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Hey Jacc - Is 'liquid patch' and 'green slime' the same? I note from your earlier post that you use green slime.. Cheers

I also have a Redback - purring beautifully at 65 hours TT. I enjoy the slowish cruise; gives plenty of time to look around and take neat photos... Have you done any servicing on your 503 as yet? What plugs do you use? Cheers, Chris

After just 3 weeks on the market Cessna now has 720 deposits of $5K each for Skycatcher, or sales value US$75 Million: http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20070809005745&newsLang=en

Great to have yet another forum member with heaps of experience; helps make us all better aviators...

Did you (or anyone else) get a brand name on the goo that caused no problems with vibration? I'm also wondering if spinning the wheel with say a drill after squirting the goo in would help with distribution?? - or would it all just settle out (to the low point) after that?

Best to talk to Airborne themselves..

Glen - I'm missing your point?! Why does flying on the front hole increase engine temp?? I fly my 503 on the back hole - but mainly because I'll like boating along slowly with my Nikon D80 at the ready...

Sounds like enough interest brewing here to do an alternative to Camden Haven trip next year.. ;-) An RFForum Group trip would be a buzz...

Or about 40 miles from Madison, which has a major airport - with flights in from Chicago and elsewhere. Madison is a pretty city - and worth an overnight on the way through...

The last post by Ozzie in a related thread says it all: http://www.recreationalflying.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3942

Bank of Queensland (branches in most States) do loans and leases on aircraft. Many of the branches are franchises; a 'friendly one' is the Bowral, NSW, branch; but I'm sure others would also help....

The movie clips of those river (more creeks by our measurement...) landings is incredible! Those guys sure know wot STOL is all about! ;)

I agree 100% with your 2 a/c solution; trikes are the motorcycles of the sky, and a quick 3-axis the travel vehicle. That's where I want to end up also.. Pursue your dreams...

Not necessarily so. The entry of "big names" will create more general awareness of the U/L - LSA category, which in turn means more people shopping the options in terms of a/c. So Cessna 162 is likely to line up with say Tecnam and CT in final delivered price, but Jabiru, Brumby etc will still be much cheaper.. Cheers, Chris

Ive talked to the Aussie Cessna agent; he says US$109,500 + freight. He has ordered "several" - but unsure of ETA at this time. Reportedly the demand since the U.S. launch a week ago has been huge with over 500 deposits of $5,000 taken. Cheers, Chris

Folks, There have been some posts regarding the entry last week of Cessna into the LSA / Recreational Aviation market. I think this event is so significant that I am bringing my post on that thread into "General Discussion". I figured that with the thread sitting in the "GA" topic, many of you might miss it - but also I am keen to get some feedback on a couple of questions from those of you more learned than me: 1. With the Cessna 162 certified in the USA, what are the barriers to certification in Australia? 2. Would Cessna logically roll a new model like this out to non-American markets? ie Are all other Cessna types available in Australia? My last post in the GA topic - thread http://www.recreationalflying.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3942 was: A truly significant event.. Thinking about the new Cessna LSA, I reckon this is one of the most significant events in the evolution of our sport - rec. aviation and LSA generally. With a respected manufacturer like Cessna getting into the category, and with a lot of noise around the launch and the follow-through, a lot more people out there will come to know about the category. Also, those that already know about the category but see it as a bit quirky, will likely be positively influenced by a main-stream brand entering the market. It's worth trawling through the Cessna "Skycatcher" blog and checking out the thoroughness of their presentation... http://www.cessnaskycatcher.com/ Cheers, Chris __________________

A truly significant event.. Thinking about the new Cessna LSA, I reckon this is one of the most significant events in the evolution of our sport - rec. aviation and LSA generally. With a respected manufacturer like Cessna getting into the category, and with a lot of noise around the launch and the follow-through, a lot more people out there will come to know about the category. Also, those that already know about the category but see it as a bit quirky, will likely be positively influenced by a main-stream brand entering the market. It's worth trawling through the Cessna "Skycatcher" blog and checking out the thoroughness of their presentation... http://www.cessnaskycatcher.com/ Cheers, Chris

Pretty impressive numbers also: Takeoff Distance S.L. (Ground Roll) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 770 ft (234.7 m) Takeoff Distance S.L. (To Clear 50 ft Obstacle) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1250 ft (381 m) Max Climb Rate S.L. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 890 fpm (271.3 m) Max Speed S.L. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 118 kts (219 km/hr, 136 mph) Max Range and Endurance at 6,000 ft . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 470 nm / 5.8 hrs Cruise Speed (77% pwr. at 6,000 ft) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 112 kts (207 km/hr,129 mph) Cruise Range and Endurance (77% pwr. at 6,000 ft) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 390 nm / 3.4 hrs Landing Distance (Ground Roll) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 420 ft (128 m) Landing Distance (To Clear 50 ft Obstacle) . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 1040 ft (317 m)

How cool are those seats!! And the mainly 'glass' panel is way unconventional in presentation.. I wonder why it is offset like that? Maybe as simple as aligning with the PIC and making room for those cup-holders! ;-)

Dieselten - I found your observation re the 582 leaning problem really helpful. Do you know if the same issue (& remedy) applies to 2-strokes - like the 503? Is the procedure u recommend, after seeing higher than normal EGTs, something that should be done regularly as a preventive thing - regardless of EGT issues? i.e. to clear the build up of obstructive particles in the main-jet, or is this a non-occurence; i.e. any partial blockage happens in an instant - rather than build up..? Cheers Chris

Wow Tony - thanks for all your insights here; you have obviously seen the good, the bad and the ugly when it comes to these type of arrangements.. It's easy to assume that a handshake arrangement is going to work out - but, as you have pointed out, that is sometimes (or often even...) not enough. Having said that I guess there are some informal arrangements out there that have worked - but it seems that the key to helping insulate against the pitfalls is formal (contractural) agreements, together with a dose of goodwill. Thanks again for you guidance. Cheers Chris

Thanks Brent C.. You also prompted me to remember there are a couple of threads in this forum covering Jab. operating costs in detail.. I guess I am also interested to know what people think is a fair margin - on top of actual costs (direct & indirect)... $70 does sound about right.. Cheers, Chris

I have read some threads regarding the pros and cons of private owners leasing their a/c to flying schools and aero clubs.... and the LSA prerequisite, and maintenance restrictions etc....so I'm not here looking for comment on those aspects. But I am interested to know what sort of money is appropriate - and the preferred method: i.e. hourly charge only; fixed charge; combination of both; other. The type of a/c that I'm considering making available to a club would be a Jabiru or Brumby - so capital cost of around $80K. Would appreciate any feedback. Cheers Chris

Definitely try the standard set up first; I was also going to order the Tundra pack - but decided to try standard (it came that way when I bought it second-hand), and on taking possession I found I could land just about anywhere with the standard wheels/tyres...

And if you are going pod-less, like my Redback, then in Winter you'll need thick socks and warm boots; I use leather lace-up hiking boots, as they keep out the draft... Cheers Chris