skeptic36

I'm on my wait out to meet Hu right now, and Chen and Wang and Bob.

Sorry Bex, but it's inside out

That video can be so true and demonstrates just one of the traps of training in any aircraft and a big trap for trike students . The student had just got the instructor at ease with student handling of the aircraft and so he was just looking around like a passenger would .He was lucky to get away with the very late instructors input close call . But trikes and open pusher 3 axis aircraft with nothing to line up aircraft attitude on the horizon so trap for students get lost with speed dropping off . I,m not a instruction but can remember first student flight in a drifter I was up and down like a roller coaster . Once you have a lot of hours under you belt you get the feel and don't need a ASI in a open aircraft . Someone did say there needs to be more training on high speed wings that sounds good but there is also the problem . Training 2 up in a small speed wing can also increase risk to help save lives . I,m sort of a bit of a loss why you would put a speed wing on a trike it,s I bit like trying to put a v8 in a motor bike . There is a bit of a speed limit of open air aircraft to keeping your clothes on ,head sets and leads attached . What speed you gain at cruise you often gain on stall speed as well ,may be they might need to address the maximin kgs per metre of wing to improve safety .

You are correct about the speed thing to a degree, I don't find the wind to be a problem in my trike, it is more that as you get up above about 75 knts mine becomes more work than play to keep it straight and level

Not sure what sort of trike this is...Interesting points I see....

 

1. Very little obvious warning of the stall.

 

2. Front seat pilot doesn't recognise the stalled wing.

 

2. Tiny amount of wing movement required to recover by back seat pilot.

 

The trike is fitted with an Evolution Trikes wing, not an option offered by A.C, that in itself is not the problem either.

Where the problem is, the wing is a small fast wing, ( around 12 sqm ). Many pilots with lots of experience, come unstuck because they have been trained and are familiar with the larger wings, and where they have been able to get away with inputting large bank angles at low speed without coordinating the turn, the new generation wings will bite them, due to the higher wing loading.

What is needed, is training with an instructor experienced with the new gen wings, and practice, practice, practice at recovery from a spiral dive (demonstrated beautifully by Henry in the back seat). The inputs need to be instinctive, because where the above scenario is most likely to happen is low altitude where you don't have time for the "oh shit what is it I do here again" moment.

I am not in anyway suggesting that this is relevant to the accident being discussed here, and it is only my personal opinion. ( I am not an instructor)

The two local miscreants are both very wealthy men, one of them is 77 years old, and is, frankly 'Past it' can't fly a proper circuit and doesn't seem to give a $h1t. . .neither of them will use nor even MONITOR our airfield radio. .

Yeah, there is a small strip, east of Bruthen. It needs a lllooottt of work

That last one in the U.S is starting to look like incorrect wing assembly.

RAA, HGFA, ATSB and CASA please work collegiality to investigate the strutted Arrow wing. Almost all the recent trike accidents, including most all of the fatalities, have been under an Arrow wing. Too much of a coincidence to ignore....Dundee/Glen Inness - two fatalities - April, 2015

 

Noosa - very lucky pilot - March 2015

 

Yarrawonga - two fatalities - March 2016

 

Mobray/Cairns - near miss - two person - Sept 2016

 

Rockhampton - two fatalities

 

Just a few that come immediately to mind, however, there's sure to be a few more (including a few near misses I know about).

 

This wing is dangerous and I'm regularly saddened, frustrated and angered hearing about high hour pilots, including CFI's having fatal incidents and that nothing is being done to ground this wing, rather blame the pilot. There's a design fault that will pull the wing into an unrecoverable spin that even Arnie Schwarzenegger wouldn't be able to get out of or that the wing becomes erratically uncontrollable in pitch & roll as was the case in one of the above....

Pilot killed after ultralight aircraft crashes at Goleta apartment complex

There are plenty of trikes fitted with them, usually across the frame under the motor.

IMHO the times that they would be useful are rare, most accidents we hear about, have their beginnings when the trike is already at low level. By the time you realise your situation is not recoverable it's too late.

Bird strike is probably the one where a BRS would be handy. If you make a habit of flying over tiger country, then maybe.......

Rotax-powered Airborne XT-912

You wouldn't think it would be a big job to remove the undulations from that runway ........

It's not clear if he asked for onions, either.

You and me, we have something in common : can't quite get one thing finished before I think up another "brilliant" idea, and off we go again

My wife tells me about it all the time

Although your ideas may be somewhat more "brilliant" than mine

The trike is not what you should be focusing on, "the wing is the thing".

Some wings are definitely more forgiving in inexperienced hands, but you need to speak to your instructor about this.

Since when was 3.6K the same as 4K?

A blonde heard that baths in milk would make her beautiful. She left a note for her milkman to leave 25 gallons of milk.

When the milkman read the note, he felt there must be a mistake. He thought she probably meant 2.5 gallons.

So he knocked on the door to clarify the point.

The blonde came to the door and the milkman said, "I found your

note asking me to leave 25 gallons of milk.

Did you mean 2.5 gallons?"

The blonde said,

"No, I want 25 gallons. I'm going to fill my bathtub up with milk and take a milk bath so I can look young and beautiful again."

The milkman asked, "Do you want it pasteurized?"

Wait for it

The blonde said,

"No, just up to my tits ...

I can splash it on my eyes if I need to!"

Yes if the wind dropped on a downwind takeoff that would be a nice thing giving you extra airspeed. Of course if the wind picked up once you got above ground affect that will be annoying but you can have the same experience whe taking of into wind and the gust does off, the only difference is your speed over the ground. As Kg said it is all about airspeed once airborne.

One minute thirty eight seconds you'll never get back

Just hope someone else gets Ian on board to make these parts elsewhere.

Simple, just buy 4 of these

, hook one on each corner, by the time the batteries go flat you'll be finished in the spa, and the lids will go back on automatically

( disclaimer : I'm not an engineer.)

Anyone had experience of these?If they work a set should save an awful lot of harm, hassle and hangar rash.

 

Seems a set of three would cost around $1700 plus import costs.

 

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Google the situation see what you find?KP

They just sit them very high in the frame and keep the pistons etc short. I must confess I don't like motors turning that way . You can always feel the effect of the engine torque, when changing gear. Nev