Kaz, you are a champion. Good comments. "Special" we are not. Seperately skilled we are. I don't hear of too many pilots cringing when asked to fly the three wheeled variety. Before I achieved my TW Endo, I admit I was scared after reading all the propagander! But determined I was, if I ever wanted to pursue my Ag career. Endorsements are training and there for a reason, because there are "special needs" that must be understood. Good to hear of things I was taught by the late Col Pay, being brought up in the thread. Taking 5 degrees of your approach path and landing with a bit of a diagonal, when the x-wind is winning the war, is something I have had to use plenty of times. When airstrip length is no problem, keep some speed, fly the aeroplane onto the ground and don't become a passenger to gravity alone. A good exercise we used to practice in the early hours of Ag, was fly along at cruise speed along the strip, gently lower down ever so slightly.........,(chirp!!) find the ground, and fly away. Second exercise, fly along the airstrip with one wheel on the ground all the way, then fly away. You ended up with great aileron control feel. And how many times has one landed the TW aircraft, only to be shot back up into the sky again? When learning in the C180/185 which is bad for bouncing, (which occurs from the change of AoA as the aircraft touches down), Col told me to always put 1 wheel down first, (which comes from the previous exercise I mentioned) and cut your bounce down considerably. Works like a shock absorber! Never did I land my TW on 2 wheels at once, unless it was a 3 pointer to pull up quick (rare on all our strips, unless is was to pull up, straight into the hangar for that nice beer at the end of the day!) A novel I know, but maybe of some help! Rod.