danny_galaga

3 hours ago, Red said:

Danny

 

Check out this one.. Denso 228000-7460 (as used in Aprilia Tuano 1000 and others)

I think this is the one, cw rotation all the dimensions match, .9KW

Only question is does it have an internal oil seal on the output shaft and it will of course need longer fixings but I dont see that being much of a problem to source.

I'm still convinced my BMW starter is the one so I'm staying out of this discussion 😄

Other than to say all of these motorcycle starters should have an oil seal because they all have the shaft going into the gearbox 

I saw Brian today at the airfield. At first I didn't recognise him. I said "Christ almighty Brian! Did they have to remove your moustache as well as your wings to get you out of the wreckage?"

He's in good spirits. Sold the wreck already. Apparently it will be used as some sort of static display.

I've seen the video now. He tells me he climbs at about 1000fpm as it's a pretty spritely plane. The video shows that was roughly his climb rate that day. The engine quits only a second or so after he establishes the climb. He did a long take off so to some people it might look like he's just hauling it into the sky, but he's going pretty quickly by then.  He MAYBE got 300 feet AGL. Within a second he had already pitched the nose down. I feel that's an impressively quick reaction. Unfortunately he says the glide is ball park the same as a Drifter, roughly 5:1. He disappears from view behind a large tree at that point. 

When all is said and done I think he did a good job. He kept flying the plane, there's not much you can do from there other than try not to hit the biggest trees as it's a pretty rough paddock. A few hundred feet higher and he could have made the next paddock, which is much more undercarriage friendly.

Pic shows view from end of the field, at the road. Trees centre left I THINK is where he ended up. I sometimes have a chat with the horsies to right. I must remember to bring them carrots one day. Look at the lovely flat, green paddock just a few hundred metres too far away.

Apologies for quality of the pic. Cheap phone plus overcast day equals 1999 webcam quality 😄

2 hours ago, Richard Stewart said:

Richard Stewarts response to you all.............................

I am the eyewitness not a single one of you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I suggest you al l go have your eyes checked, because this is why I refused to respond to a pack of key board assholes who went there.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

You should be grateful I gave you the fucking time of day...

 

The pilot pulled her up. motor stopped ................ go fuck your selves .i try to help you lot and the shit that comes out of your fucking mouths is just crap....

 

DONT BOTHER ASKING ME FOR ANY VIDEO, TO BE POSTED.  BECAUSE YOU ASSHOLES DONT RESPECT THE TRUTH.

BUNCH OF KEYBOARD WARRIORS...

 

TO THE FEW. WHO ASKED ME FOR THE INFORMATION, WELL YOU CAN SEE NOW HOW THE DICKHEADS ON BACK BENCHES RESPOND....YES PILOT FUCKED UP, GO CHAT TO HIM ..HE CAN'T REMEMBER GETTING IN HISD OWN PLANE..

 

THIS CONVERSATION IS OVER.

 

 

The most important thing is he is safe, and you have video that could be helpful. Being Ra Aus that's the end of the line investigation-wise. It would be instructive to see the video. Or at least contact Brian so he can view it and comment on it.

Not remembering what happened doesn't mean he did anything wrong. Don't make it about you. Enlighten us, but don't get upset that we are finding it hard to follow your posts. If a picture is worth a thousand words, what's a video worth? Why describe it when you can just show it?

Thanks for the detail. Are you saying you observed two problems? That he pulled up violently/prematurely and that after he did his engine also failed? Could it be then that he could climb at that steep angle normally, but this time the engine quit on him? 

Incidentally, I just bought Divinyls - What a Life on vinyl. Been getting into LPs again and that was one of my favourite albums back in the day 🙂

I feel your pain!

Hi Richard,

I don't want to bust your balls about this, since you are a very rare thing-  a witness who knows about aircraft and who filmed it. The devil is in the detail here. How far do you reckon he was from you when you hear the engine quit in the video? If he was say about 300 metres away from you, you have to wind back the video pretty much a full second. That is where the engine actually quit.

I don't know enough about this configuration of biplane. Could it be that trimmed for takeoff under full power, it would be inclined to pitch up with an engine failure? Or maybe when the engine has quit, he has pulled back to gain height and then pitch down for glide?

Hopefully I can get back to the airfield this weekend and I can see how he's going 

44 minutes ago, Blueadventures said:

Abrupt take off attitude can occur in some aircraft if elevator trim not set for take off speeds and is inadvertently still back for slower landing flare speed / trim setting; after the last landing setting. (Not meant to be instruction just my experience.)

Good point, hadn't even thought of that. 

Hi Richard. Do you think the pilot may have had some sort of problem? Either airframe issue or perhaps maybe a medical drama of some sort? Having watched a number of flights it doesn't seem like something he would deliberately do? Was the engine running smoothly through the whole thing? 

29 minutes ago, BrendAn said:

Maybe if hadn't carried on so much he might have had a better reception. 

And there it is. Some people just can't see someone else's point of view. I think you've just invented the 'triple down' 😄

25 minutes ago, BrendAn said:

If I remember correctly his name was reported in the media , our member only posted what he read.

 I Think a simple apology to him would have been nice, instead people, including you just doubled down. A simple apology and move on.

The original thread has been edited but you can see he had a valid point. 

On 15/09/2024 at 8:28 PM, onetrack said:

Flightrite, a search reveals no-one by the name of Mark Freedtone of Penfield. Did you mean to type Freestone or Freedstone? Have the Police released the pilots name?

 

It's bad form to name deceased pilots in crashes, before the Police have publicly released the pilots name officially.

 

Meantimes, the ATSB has stated that they're not investigating, as the aircraft was RA-registered. There can't be too many Bristells on the RA register?

Indeed, not too long ago a guy joined up on this forum purely to inform everyone he had not died in a crash like some people were saying..he was not best pleased and I don't blame him for being upset about it.

13 hours ago, Litespeed said:

What a beautiful aircraft.

 

Such a loss of a wonderful machine

Important thing is he is alright. That fuselage sure gave him some crash protection 😲

I believe it was a one off. The current owner bought it and finished it. 

7 minutes ago, pmccarthy said:

It was a very pretty plane.

It was a delight to see and hear it flying 

Nope. (My hangar on the right of the plane)

https://www.planesales.com.au/details/Listing/Single-Engine-Propeller/9982/2023-Scamp-2023

Hmmm, according to the report, the pilot is in his fifties, but I'm pretty sure the owner is older. So either a typo or someone else was flying. He was selling the plane. 

That makes sense. The hangar to the left with the plane in front of it is where I keep my plane. The paddock straight across the road from that hangar is quite scrubby. I sometimes go over and chat to the horses in it. The scenery in that video looks like it's that paddock now you mention it. 

Im pretty sure I know which plane this is and have talked to the pilot a number of times, nice fellow. If him, it's a Rotec powered biplane. Glad he's not seriously injured.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-17/light-plane-crash-scenic-rim-boonah-airfield-queensland/104360076

14 hours ago, Red said:

Have them on my aircraft now, I fitted them on my last 912 powered aircraft also.

Work fine, less expensive, programmable ignition curve.

 

Did you end up mounting them NOT on the engine, or just reused the original mounting bracket?

Picked up the plans for the club racer today. This is the OS 15 I got for my 12th birthday. Looks a little sorry now. But some WD-40 and an old toothbrush should make it look a little more respectable 🙂

I don't have direct experience with them, but these aftermarket 912 ignition modules have been praised by various people 

https://www.ignitech.cz/en/vyrobky/bikes/rotax/rotax_912_and_914/rotax_912_and_914.htm

They also have enough wiring to mount them NOT on the engine, just like they should be in the first place 😄 

So the 'club' racer is a slightly reworked plan of the 1940's KK Phantom . I will pick up a plan from them this Sunday. It will be ages before I build it, but in my spare time I can get a kit of parts ready. I'll make patterns for the main parts as I'm pretty sure I'll build at least 2. The first is the homage to Dad and 12 yo me, and will be quite standard. Once I've done some flying with that one I'll know how to finesse the next one. 

The one in the photo I think has something like an ED 2.49 or similar diesel. They are quite potent and like full size diesels have a better duration so great for team racer or similar. I'm using my original OS .15 glo which might be roughly the same power but of course will have a higher fuel burn rate.

I'm going incorporate the name Cherokee as part of the homage. But not on its own. Any ideas? It can be corny because , well I'm 12 yo again ☺️ For instance Cherokee Dream or Cherokee Spirit

11 hours ago, Marty_d said:

As mentioned - the balsa glider kit.  Turned out to be a great little kit, all parts laser cut and fit perfectly.  Whole thing went together in about 3 days.

Just waiting now on the radio and battery pack for the motor - I thought I'd be able to use my old radios (which have collected dust for about 30 years) but unfortunately they're beyond salvage.  Still, new ones are heaps cheaper than they used to be.

 

 

Safer too. If you went to a club they won't even allow you to use the old radios. There is a trend, which I think I might do for a 2 channel model I want to build, where people buy really old radios, particularly metal bodied ones like Futaba etc and then install modern radio internals. Great for Old Timer etc because it just adds to the retro look of it all.

A 30 year old radio is in no man's land however - too old to be considered reliable but not old enough to have any vintage appeal.

8 hours ago, Moneybox said:

That would be part of their dealer agreement with Rotax. It’s a good system put in place to protect regional parts dealers from unscrupulous poachers marketing outside their dealer region.

 

We had a dealer agreement with AmGeneral Corporation in the US where we supplied Hummer parts to all RH drive countries through the world. When war broke out in Timor the Portuguese Military came to us for parts because we could get the there from Capel WA almost overnight depending on the time of day we received the order. If they ordered from their European source they could wait weeks. We happily took the windfall but got a quiet wrap over the knuckles from AmGeneral sometime later when the other dealer realised what was happening. It was just the circumstances requiring the urgency of supply that prevented us from getting into real trouble. 

We enjoyed the same protection here in Australia. It allowed us to carry about 5000 parts lines in stock and price them appropriately to cover the cost of having all that money tied up in slow moving stock. We could actually return any old unsold stock for a full credit but we never did. Freight usually cost as much as the parts.

 

What most clients don’t understand is that the Australian dealer has to buy those parts, cover the cost of the freight and import charges and then carry the cost off hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of parts sitting idle on a shelf waiting for just a few Australian customers to need that part urgently. We must pay a price penalty for that service otherwise we’d loose out local parts supplier. 
 

Even if the item is not Australian made buying in Australia is supporting our Australian industry that we often rely on when we need something NOW. 

That's great, but I find some local businesses are a pain to deal with. Despite your experience, my favourite people generally to deal with are American. They seem the most service oriented, and genuine competition within their region makes them pretty keen to please. Not necessarily just aircraft stuff, although that's been a big part of my life for the last five or so years.