Ballpoint 246niner

Only for the imminent avoidence of collision,emergency( as mentioned), or to remain VMC if cleared for a visual departure.... HH you have got me digging now?

Aww shucks, thanks HH

An early left turn clearance does not exempt a pilot from adherence to CAR's- not below 500" agl- it may happen before the upwind threshold as I've done many times in the Sav at Archerfield, but ATC cannot authorise flight operations outside the CAR's unless in a declared emergency.

Not attacking anyone personally here, but it's a shame that these reg;s don't seem to be included in any training. Yes there is an "Air Law" exam, but it only really scratches the surface, to the point where a lot of pilots think that they are the only rules applicable. I would recommend going onto the CASA website and having a good look throughout. Also have a look at the AIP which basically explains the rules in a practical sense.

Motz is spot on, this is a student learning thread- ask the question, get a qualified, regulatory supported answer( eg DJP), some logical justification and move on.

To spend time looking for anything else is just looking for trouble...

I've cleared a few hours in the morning to buddy with a student for an extended training area flight so I should be out there around 8.30.

I for one think it is a good idea, I see quite a few transferred students from other schools as most of us probably do as well. This should be a good forum to discuss teaching differences, styles and information so not only will the bar be raised but, even in a fairly small sample help improve consistency. Yesd we all have to pass RA /CASA audits but the real oil seldom gets discussed.

Maybe that could be a good 1st topic " dealing with transferring students".....

Also the GA/RA convergence is coming. Make no mistake, what opportunities and threats will this convergence create- who will be the winners and losers? A subject worth discussing.

Finally- Regionalising RA Aus again, should the states and FTF 's have more say in local operations?

Lets get the ball rolling.......

And alloy hub, not carbon....

And that looks like an expensive CS prop he is sporting also, would be a shame to use that as a brake !.............................................Maj...

No mate, sounds like you've got heaps of passion, don't lose it and balance the rest good luck with the upcoming wedding.

And your getting married! - get used to longer breaks in flying then.....

Renewed 4 weeks ago still waiting on mine too! Must be in the same trays as the rego renewals.

A great album Craynbox-well done!!

Archer Falls and work lads - have fun! It is the fly in season- keep them and the god weather coming

I'm there!!

This is what's on he placard of every rec aircraft or should be. Every PIC needs to make their pax aware and in agreement prior to flight or no flight should take place. The recent findings in case law simply support this statement.

He may have liked being landed upon !!...............reminds me of a story from Charles Lindberghs' "Wartime Diaries", when he was flying in PNG during WW2 as a 'non-combatant'. He was there as a technical adviser for Allison engines, to help the P-38 squadron pilots extend their range. Lindberghs work with the range extending led directly to the interception and shooting down of Yamamotos' Betty bomber far to the North. One morning he was out on a jolly in a Corsair (he had test flown them when they were being developed) flying low along the Northern beaches of the PNG coast, as you do. As he rounded a point he spotted a lone naked Jap solder on the beach ahead. The jap faced him and stood defiant, when he could easily have run. With just one squeeze of a button Lindbergh could have ended his defiance, but didn't, stating that he was impressed with his stature and physique !....Great read if you can get a copy.......book is called "The wartime diaries of Charles Lindbergh"...................................................Maj...

Only ten hours can be converted to thirty hours counted this way, Jasmine is a current learner but I had to look it up on the web because she hasn't had and won't be having professional lessons until she learns to fly.

The driving comparison is not entirely a fair one, because in NSW at least, a serious amount of time is trimmed off the 120 hour requirement since professional driver training is counted three to one compared to going shopping with mum. If your mum could teach you to fly you might very well take sixty or eighty hours to reach a standard acceptable to a CFI to sign you off.

I think if the young drivers were paying by the hour, they would appreciate rapid progress as well :-) That said, speaking for myself as a "mature" student - I think the key is more "progress". I try not to worry if it is "rapid", but if I get put off for a couple months because the instructor has other commitments, or the weather, or whatever, and I then have to pay for 2-3 more lessons to catch up, that is not progress. Yes each hardship or obstacle has its own lesson, but that works both ways - of course it shouldn't be rushed or pushed, but there should always be an eye towards moving the ball down the field. The school should conduct the business for which I have contracted them without having to climb their legs every other week, and if that is necessary, it shouldn't be construed as being impatient or wanting "rapid progress" - just prudent time and money management.But I will reiterate what I said in my original post - yes it can add time to the process, but the experience gained from each one will provide a solid foundation AS LONG AS the ball moves down the field. Its your money.

Instructor variety from a students viewpoint can be varied, as long as there is core consistency looked for and prompted by each instructor then the student can only benefit from the varied focus of each individual teaching style. We generally try to keep most students predominately with one or two core teachers, but towards solo some variety in styles can help round out the students learning. 'lll often swap myself out if I feel a student is struggling or to get a different viewpoint in some instances.

Students tend to look for rapid progress all through their training, and this seldom happens, remember we expect young drivers to do 100 logged hours minimum to drive, yet in an infinitely more complex environment we can see pilots solo in a quarter of this time. Flying progress shouldn't be rushed or pushed, the hurdles along the way will end up being your best lessons in many ways.

I was too young for my first solo in gliders many years ago so the pressure was off, I had nearly 15 instructors in 3 years and yes while I gelled with some more than others I can honestly say that I learnt something from every one of them. The harder ones often proved to be the better instructors but this wasn't evident till many years later.

Enjoy the journey, there will be times when you miss having him or her there in times to come!

and then some- fantastic determination showing the power of dreams. Good luck for the entire trip

Sounds like the best turn out for many years!. Thanks to you all. We are now living in the Lockyer valley just south of Atkinson Dam with our little strip of 315 metres ( 24 - 06 ) running parallel to seven mile lagoon on the western shore line. Any one traveling thru is welcome to drop in for a coffee and chat if you can get into short strips. And not to mention the bird life on the lagoon is amazing for those interested in bird watching. Is the flying at Mt Archer a Fly in & Camp week end ? Till then , take care and safe flying.

Once thought of the tag. " Savannah pilots like it short" but thought better of the inference!!

Great to have you on the forum...

My daughter collapsed from dehydration and after short lie down under Martin and AnnMaree Jacksons wing, she didn't improve so I spent two hours at the hospital, about half an hour back at the field to try and let Annmaree know how we got on, then headed home about five hours earlier than planned. I would like to get their number so i can ring and thank them for their help if anyone here could PM the phone number to me that would be great.

I'm going Mark, and I would prefer a room too!- I do snore louder than a pratt& Whitney I am told!!!