Guest FlyBlue Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 In the initial "left hand vs right hand stick" discussions I assumed y'all meant a side mount stick as in the Cirrus SR22. Unless I have missed something here's how I see it, 1 - If using a centre mount stick and toe brakes only the hand grip and throttle position determines if your left or right hand is used on the stick. 2 - If the throttle was mounted a little closer to the centre it could be reached with ether hand as it is a tandem cockpit, therefore not a wide panel. If this was the case, the hand grip on the stick is the only determining factor if your left hand or right hand is used to on the stick. 3 - If the hand grip is designed so that from the rear it appears to suit the right hand, but the side view shows both the front half and back half of the grip are in fact the same shape, then only the grip needs to be rotated 180 deg to suit the other hand. My ideal layout ideas (at this stage), RH centre mount stick, toe brakes, glass cockpit, as in Prot 2 (or the tablet as per your post Ian) with old school air speed and alt for backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybum Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Ian, if you reckon this little beasty is better than an MCR, you can put me down for one too! :thumb_up: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybum Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Oh yeh, I'll have mine with RH stick LH throttle and we can work on the toe brakes later.:thumb_up: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Longden Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 Left hand stick, right hand throttle (so its an easy transition between Tecnam, Gazelle, Cessna and Piper), Toe brakes, full retract, and an espresso machine in the back. Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest disperse Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 and an espresso machine in the back. Ben You can't put an espresso machine in the back ......... it won't fit ....... next to the spa !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest airsick Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 I know there are two prototypes that have flown and lots of computer based modelling has been done but am wondering what real world testing has been done. I have read about and seen numerous aircraft being tested in real world scenarios (for example, drop tests like this one - http://www.fk-leichtflugzeuge.de/Downloads/LoadTest_Fk14_720.wmv), has anything like this been done for the Millennium? If so where can we get details? For some reason I began to think about this overnight. Cruise of 160 knots, max of 190 knots, there's a lot of stresses and forces at play while travelling at these speeds. It would be reassuring to know about tests that have been done. The website is pretty light on as far as information is concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted April 3, 2008 Author Share Posted April 3, 2008 All the flying test performances will be placed on the Master's website very soon - email I have received from Luisa advises that she is getting it all together plus ordering etc information and placing it all on their website some time in the next 2 weeks - hope that helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest airsick Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Have they done any destructive testing? Wing load, fuselage loading, crash testing, etc.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest disperse Posted April 3, 2008 Share Posted April 3, 2008 Slightly off topic here. But in that drop test, two things come to mind. What would happen to the guy on the ladder, had the landing gear failed ??? and the wheels seem to have a slider under them.. I suppose this is needed, as in a hard landing the forward motion would allow the wheels to travel laterally. But that guy on the ladder?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest airsick Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 Slightly off topic here. But in that drop test, two things come to mind. What would happen to the guy on the ladder, had the landing gear failed ??? Brown trousers comes to mind. :ah_oh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Longden Posted April 6, 2008 Share Posted April 6, 2008 Not to mention the brown shoes... Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 back on the toe brakes - the sportstar has height/length adjustable toe brakes as well which are a little fiddly but work well Given the low drag phenomenal performance of this plane I would think great brakes would be of vital importance. My cobra is very "slippery" and I find it simply does not slow down in the ground roll, it just wants to keep going - I put full flaps in and elevator either full up or down to add drag during the roll out then need to use the brakes -- having toe brakes is a real asset in this situation but I would be happy with either as long as they are powerful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vme Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Hi Ian Would you please be able to supply dimensions of the instrument panel and the clearance behind it. Is the 914 an option? Do they anticipate any problems fitting autopilot (say TruTrak) servos? Is there any baggage storage? What date do you anticipate the MM will be available for general purchase in Australia? Will it carry 19- or 24- registration? Any word on MTOW and endurance? Thanks and regards ... Vince Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vme Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 Ian, Is this the correct location to post questions about the MM? ... Vince Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted April 26, 2008 Author Share Posted April 26, 2008 Sure is Vince - ask away Latest news is I received an email from Luisa advising that they are going through all the certification papers that I sent them to get the Master flying here in Australia - should be about another week or so before I hear on the next step Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bretto Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 I noticed in one of your posts that you said the seat is stationary and can't be moved What will the leg room and height etc be like for a taller than average guy like me at 6'6 (198cm)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted May 18, 2008 Author Share Posted May 18, 2008 The pedals are adjustable back and forward but as far as the max height of a person I am unsure at this stage - crikey I am still waiting to find out when my own demo one is ready to be built. I am 6ft and when I sat in it I had heaps of leg room. Hope this helps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bretto Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 Cool - s'pose you haven't heard when yours will roughly be arriving ey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 I am 6ft and when I sat in it I had heaps of leg room. Hope this helps! Ian How much space was there between your melon and the canopy when you sat in it? I am 6' 3" ..... or at least I was before I started getting shorter (what's the go with eyebrows and ears getting longer while our bodies getting shorter as blokes get older? Oh well, look on the bright side I guess, we can cram ourselves into a smaller, slippery-er, faster, higher performance plane as we get ancient). Alternatively, roughly how tall is that test pilot bloke in the photos on the M-M website? Regards Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted May 19, 2008 Author Share Posted May 19, 2008 For memory Cap't about 6 to 8 inches. I didn't meet the test pilot on prototype 1 but the test pilot on prototype 2 was about 5ft 10in and shown in these pictures: http://www.recreationalflying.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5088&d=1207014473 http://www.recreationalflying.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3812&d=1195652715 It is very hard to know exacts until I get my own one here and I can start quoting accurate figures on what I am getting and experiencing. Luisa and Curzio have been very busy with their normal working duties whilst also gearing up for the manufacturer of the Master - Luisa is travelling all around Europe and the UK etc promoting the Cheese and wines of the Torino region and Curzio runs the Carbon Fibre factory making amongst other things carbon Fibre parts for other European aircraft manufacturers. I am hoping to get some good news on when mine will start in the coming days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultralights Posted June 22, 2008 Share Posted June 22, 2008 is there a ballpark figure on price yet for a base model? and will they be offered as a factory ready to fly aircraft that can be hired? or are they kit only? reason being i am looking at buying another aircraft in the next 12 moths or less, around the J230 range Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skybum Posted August 25, 2008 Share Posted August 25, 2008 Ian, any news yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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