spacesage Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Proof that winglets dont always make something look cooler! Its still been beaten with the ugly stick! The colour doesnt help either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPete Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 I kinda like it! regards:big_grin::big_grin::big_grin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Me too. A little Brazilian flair! I bet it flies a lot better than a standard Air Tractor too. Notice it's running on pure alcohol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest airsick Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 What is? The pilot or the plane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechMan Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 What is? The pilot or the plane? It's in Brasil - I would say both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultralights Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 i would love something like that, built like a truck, good low speed performance, and heaps of power! just convert the hopper to carry fuel, and you will have a great long range cruiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Alcohol. I've never seen a cropduster that high. There must be some reason N.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flie43 Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Yeh, too high for a croppy, if you look close he probably has a nose bleed due to the height:laugh: Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Longden Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 It might have been seriously beaten with the ugly stick... but if someone said to me, "its yours, Ben" I'd take it. No questions asked... Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ozzie Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 An enviomently green chemical dispenser. makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shafs64 Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 That's a hot looking ship. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnprop Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 Cloud seeding? Clive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andys@coffs Posted April 26, 2008 Share Posted April 26, 2008 The winglets were added to increase the drag profile, clearly there isnt enough drag already on that machine, what with the clean lines and lack of added things in the slipstream Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngmic Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 But mostly to reduce the wing tip vortex and reduce droplet entrapment in the vortex and thus reduce drift, and allow an increase swath. Typically at least in these environmentally conscious times boom width is as little as 60% of wing span for this very reason. Ipanema is pretty much a Brazilian derivative of the Piper Brave, or a Brave with a Brazilian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultralights Posted April 27, 2008 Share Posted April 27, 2008 what is the meaning of the 100% Alcohol signage? does it run on Biofuel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacesage Posted April 27, 2008 Author Share Posted April 27, 2008 It runs on 100% ethanol as do most of the cars in Brazil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngmic Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 It runs on 100% ethanol as do most of the cars in Brazil. And in doing so perpetuates the spiral decline of biodiversity by ensuring more land is cleared for crop production to fuel the plane that sprays the crop that burns the fuel. Wonderfully ingenious those humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacesage Posted April 28, 2008 Author Share Posted April 28, 2008 And in doing so perpetuates the spiral decline of biodiversity by ensuring more land is cleared for crop production to fuel the plane that sprays the crop that burns the fuel.Wonderfully ingenious those humans. I was going to mention that. It should be called the Embraer "Paradox". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ozzie Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 Last year i was curious about this ethanol stuff and ultralight engines, so emailed some flyers in Brazil to find out what they run their rotaxes on. had a couple of replies and either blended or or neat ethanol where used. they don't speak much english so don't know how the engines were setup. as a coincidence ethanol in rotax engines will be disscussed on www.ultraflightradio.com this week. early eighties 2 rag and tube ultralight flew across the USA and stopped off at EAA headquarters at Oshkosh and they converted (rejet)1 to run on ethanol and with ground crew carrying the fue,l out performed the other all the way to the east coast. interesting times ahead. ozzie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slartibartfast Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 I spent some time in Brasil recently and rented a brand new VW Gol which didn't care what you put in it. All Petrol, all alcool, half-half - whatever. I still have trouble reconciling the fact that half the world is starving, and yet we keep increasing the amount of land that can sustain crops so that more of it can produce fuel for our SUVs. It seems immoral. Brasil is larger than Australia by a fair bit, and has much more arable land. Surely it can be put to better use. I speak conversational Portuguese and love the country and the people - nothing against them. It is a global problem. While there are national and corporate interests driving things, it will only get worse. Surely someone on this forum has the answer. Hint - it isn't 42. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vk3auu Posted April 28, 2008 Share Posted April 28, 2008 The other interesting thing is that GM are selling them the same cars we use here to run on their alcohol. David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechMan Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Surely someone on this forum has the answer. Hint - it isn't 42. Bugger - that counts me out..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Longden Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 But, surely... The answer to THE Ultimate Question.... IS 42 ? Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seal Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 But mostly to reduce the wing tip vortex and reduce droplet entrapment in the vortex and thus reduce drift, and allow an increase swath. Typically at least in these environmentally conscious times boom width is as little as 60% of wing span for this very reason.Ipanema is pretty much a Brazilian derivative of the Piper Brave, or a Brave with a Brazilian Of course, silly me:blush: . I was wondering what the tips were for, obvious really. Maybe it requires a brave Brazilian to fly it. Given the occasional fun we had with Pawnees on mogas I would think this could get jolly entertaining on a hot day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngmic Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 Not sure what the vapour pressure of ethanol is must be reasonable if their using it. Can recall a 260hp Pawnee dying during the middle of a spray run one day due to mogas vapour lock, management wouldn't believe me, thought I must have imagined the engine failure and being stuck in the middle of a 40ha oat crop. By the end of the week when 3 more Pawnees fell out of the sky and the PW1340's where running a bit woolly, I moved up one rank from dumb to just dim. All traced to the last import of super fuel into the country, Reid Vapour pressure index through the roof, probably a blend, bit of old thinners, bit of acetone, splash of toluene, sprinkle of TEL and a dash of original super fuel. M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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