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Teckair

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  1. The pilot is going to have an uphill battle, given the record of the operator. I have looked at where he was heading to land and declined it. They used to land on aeroplane beach, where there is ample room, but that site didn't look good to me, although a friend landed there in his Savannah.

    A Savannah is stol but it could not make the turn this guy tried to do.

     

     

  2. It is normal to zoom up in a plane that has inertia (Not a thruster !) to best glide speed. The engine failed at 80 agl and climbed to 150 before starting the 180 turn. If the aircraft had been at 200 agl when the engine failed the pilot would have made it.https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications/investigation_reports/2017/aair/ao-2017-005/

    Maybe but I wouldn't try it I would have gone straight ahead and slightly to the left to the waters edge. Might wreck the plane but less impact.

     

     

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  3. Watched the video taken from inside the plane. Here is my thoughts a 180 degree turn from that height with out power was not achievable. I had thought the turn must have been attempted because there was no other option but the video appears to show that is not the case. The plane was flying low over the water and not in the best position to be checking the beach sand surface. The plane was being flown in a manner as though an engine failure was not possible. He was trying to defend the indefensible.

     

     

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  4. I was told by a ex Mustang pilot in those days it was a court marshall if you did a out landing with the gear down. I thought it was more good luck than good management that paddock was there when he couldn't make the turn onto final.That said he did well to abandon trying to make the strip that was not going to end well. I reckon 8 out of 10 for that effort. 

     

     

  5. The way I see it, the plane was already much slower than most would fly for a buzz, fly-by etc.I'd say he was lining up for a river ditching. Engine problems... no fuel, failing fuel pump etc. the thing suddenly burst into life catching him unawares, climbing and the engine failing again, just as he was desperately formulating a new plan in his already totally overloaded head.If it was still developing cruise rpm on impact, there would be visible damage to the prop.

     

    Who knows how any of us pilots might react in the same situation with literaly only seconds to formulate a plan with the river being (in his mind) the better option for a forced landing.

     

    Consider also it may well have been the passenger at the controls after the pilot became incapacitated....

     

    Just my Aus$0.02 cents

     

    WBY

    Some good points made there which could explain a few things.
  6. Aircraft is (was) a Kappa Sova' date=' all metal with retracts, 912ULS and often a variable prop, built in the Czech Republic.[ATTACH=full']54845[/ATTACH]There are a few of them here in OZ, thought to be a nice plane.

     

    Yep, another one of those, "Hey, watch this," moments.

    I don't understand why it was going so slow it nearly stalled when they pulled up to make the turn. Absolute madness could only end one way.
  7. He had almost completed his training , now this ''training could have already advanced beyond the solo stage and he was doing his navs with the instructor in a two seater ,,,BUT on a lazy sunday would just beetle about the local area in his own 95,10 ,,,nothing illegal about that and I done it myself.....

    If he had his pilot cert and was trained to fly that type of aircraft you would be correct. He could do his solo xcountry flying in that 95.10 in fact but this did not read that way.

     

     

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  8. Why Tech? Do you know the ins and outs of this particular pilot?I would say if RAA have said it was a routine training flight then they probably have a better idea of the circumstances than you and me.

    No I don't know about the pilot except he is now deceased and appears to have been training in a 95.10. I would be astounded if that was legal. I think it has already been pointed out on this thread it is not.

     

     

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  9. RAAus do not approve of these forums and rarely partisipate. I saw on the news a photo of the student standing in front of a Jabiru if he trained in that and then did solo flying in a single seat Flightstar then that could cause the accident. Way too many people don't realize the difference between those two types of aircraft.

     

     

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