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Than thanks Mark if you put the word out if there is anyone you know it would be appreciated

no it isnt but cant bring ourselves to fix our loss will be somones gain

Well sadley our plane is kaput on the first flight after test flying on taxing the wing caught the side of a parked car , the throttle was pushed in full power instead of off and the plane pivoted around the front of the car and the other wing hit another car on the other side and bent and crushed the wing the engine and prop was left spinning full power between the two cars undamaged Garath has been curled up in a ball for 6 weeks #$@ off with himself but he is now up and ready to fly again we can not bring ourselves to rebuild the plane to bumed out ,even though all it needs is a wing so we are going to sell it as is , so if anyone would like to buy it we would like $ 28000 for it , keeping in mind that the engine alone is worth $ 33000 You can see what we did during the build so there is no secrets so if anyone wants a bargain let me know Cheers Craig

Yes Graham you are right having built one there is no other part that could look like that definitely the rudder

garaths just loading them off the go pro so should be up soon

Well finally the plane is in the air after 2 years of hard work and frustration. The test pilot did a full inspection of air frame and controls all good said ill do a few taxis and then go from there , he taxied out and did two fast runs back and forth then on the second run he took off much to Garaths and my surprise , he then flew around for about a hour doing stalls /steep turns etc and put the plane through its paces he then landed without a drama and taxied to the hanger climbed out and made a couple of suggestions that we would need to adjust as he was having to hold a little right aileron in straight and level and probably will need a small trim tab on the rudder as the plane plane required a little to much right rudder , But all in all he was very happy with the way it flew .It was such a good feeling seeing something you have put so much effort into fly straight off, as what is essentially a home built plane by two people who have never done this before. Credit to Garath for putting up with me during the process along with his hard work and commitment , also credit to Garry Morgan Morgan Aeroworks for designing the plane and his help and advice. Now just to fly off our hours and enjoy For all of you who are interested how the UL engine went all i can say is what a rocket climb out awesome, speed awesome and so smooth , the test pilot commented on the power and smoothness of the engine, so so far so good. will keep you posted Thanks to all for the interest in our build Craig

That,s a interesting comment from someone who has no problem flapping his jaws. As the pilot of the plane mentioned im a bit confused by this statement , the original forum stated that they tried to start the engine and nothing happened then they replace both CDIs and it burst into life I also spoke to the owner of the training school Ian recently and he told me the same as above so either you know something know one else knows or you are just a #$@% stirrer and by reading your other comments I think probably the later . However if it was caused by some other error pilot or whatever, based on your rantings about trans parity on Jabs, why continue with this {ill leave it at that} garbage as it is this kind of cover up that should be exposed so that when this happens to someone else it can be avoided rather than this obvious bias And I can assure you that if I have made a mistake I would like to know about it rather the hear your #$@% Maybe you should use this forum for what it was intended and leave you negative and arrogant comments for the pub where the person you are saying it to can react as nessasary You have both had your say and that is the end of it in this thread. Take it to PM. - Mod xox

Thanks Mick yes minor oversite to say the least ,consider that sorted , this is why we like this forum good constructive critisism , { well most of the time } cheers Craig

Hi Pylon Yes we have read that on servo and anti servo trim system , our trim system is set up such that the trim tab moves independently of the elevator as such the elevator can move through its full range of movement without altering the position of the trim tab relative to the elevator , the trim tab is controled with a ray allen servo and is controled with trim adjust in the cockpit cheers Craig

I stand corrected

Flying at approx 1750agl , rpm 4600 Straight and level , Yep at bit of rubber necking but still straight and level , Had just scanned instruments all looked good , Engine ran rough , then coughed and spluttered for approx 15 secs then died, did not rev up before stopping, when I moved the throttle in and out while it was spluttering this made no difference to performance oil good temps good .

v ery informative thankyou Maj

Hi everyone it turns out that the engine failure of the rotax 912 in the technam I was flying was a dual CDI failure at the same time does anyone know if this is possible and why

Tha thanks for the update although as HITC said this does not make sense I would appreciate a update if it comes

Hi Head in the clouds well said that does not make sense and certainly requires futher investigation

Looking back on events things I would do, fly at a height that allows time to respond and suits the relevant terrain below , Fully appreciate that it is not a case of if the engine will fail but when and plan and prepare before flight and during including relevant landing sites. I Realize now that the only real way that i would fully appreciate how important the training is is to experience it . The two CFIs I trained under had a combined total of over 37000 hrs and neither had experienced a forced landing I have only done 100 hrs . I feel good about the fact I got the plane down and we walked away as to what i would change lets hope it never happen but if it does I would fly as I have said above and if it happens respond faster and hopefully have the same outcome The experienced pilots on this forum are a wealth of information and I can assure you I have taken alot of advice on board that can only help my flying I do think that the culture of casualness shown by some pilots to engine failure is something that was obviously derived from the early years but I do thinks that for our sport this is something that should be addressed to help the stigma that LSA aircraft have not just in the public view but some GA pilots s

Just read your post wwl The sequence of order of events was not written by me, and I can asure you that the landing site was chosen and the plane was in a glide before any communication was carried out.

Hi Kg wilson Thats a interesting point of view , however there is a reason that they are called home builts { 51 % }, If you follow a recommened path knowing from your own vast manufacturing experience that the path you are taking is of very poor design and construction techniques then you are exposing yourself to unnessasary risk , And just because a manufacturer starts a company, designs a plane and starts selling them, in no way makes that manufacturer a expert or his product beyond design flaws . If you are the sort of builder who is incapable of assesing whether the technique or product you are build ing is wrong then maybe you should not be building a plane ,as all you are doing is blindly trusting someone else. and my recent experiences have taught me that the only person you can trust to do the right thing in your own personal flying is you

Thankyou all for your kind suportive words just what the doctor ordered . I think it will be a while before my daughter comes up again the cock pit held up with only a small deformation jamming the left door We actually did not hit the tree very hard although it does not look like it most of the speed had been scrubbed off as we dropped off the embankment breaking the undercarriage hopefully see some of you at the next fly again thanks

Thanks for the reply Kiwi I really look forward to hearing from you re the outcome, as to the crash fortunately for us at the end you would have noticed the 2 meter drop off ,it was this that scrubbed off excess speed so we actually hit the trees with not a lot of force even though it does not look like it

Hmmm as i thought

Hi Kiwi Thanks for all your help it was much appreciated at a terrifying time maybe carb icing could have been the reason I spoke to Ian this morning and asked what sort of investigation would occur ,his words to me were that he had spoken to every relevant authority including RAAus and no one would be taking it further , he also said that no one would bother to spend the necessary cash to investigate and at no stage indicated to me that he would do otherwise actually indicated to quite the contrary ( quite Flippant } I do know Ian is a very experienced pilot 20000 hours I think and I have nothing but respect for him as a pilot but this morning his $#@ happens attitude to this was appalling. I are not looking to find a scapegoat or blame anyone or in Ians words clutch at straws I just would like a explanation for my own self and for the safety of every pilot out there , surly this is nothing but due diligence

King words Issac I appreciate that

Thanks for all the support it means alot as it is hard not to think you should have done it better , I never want to go through that again that was the worst thing ever