Geoff13

OK, thanks.So about $1500 now including gst. Maybe a bit less if your $1250 included gst.

 

Was that for a D-Motor or Rotax from Europe?

Funny you should mention that. I had written that in my last post, but then deleted before posting.The 92HP LF26 is listed as $20,700 delivered on the Aus website. However I've just found them advertised in the back of the Sport Pilot magazine for 12,600 Euros + shipping + GST.

 

Not sure, don't you pay GST on shipping.

 

How much would shipping be?

 

Would there be an import duty on top of the shipping and GST?

 

I would expect it to come out higher than $20,700 AUD delivered.

 

Good price for a LF26?

 

I hope they succeed, but I would prefer many more examples clocking up hours.

 

The Rotax is very over price IMHO, but there are not a lot of alternatives.

 

I've just searched the Tecnam P2002 reviews. I was very surprised to see the number of accidents world wide, that seem to note (engine problems) for the accident. They have the certified Rotax 912.

 

I don't know much about the aircraft, hence researching, but are there that many forced landings with Rotax 912 engines happening?

 

That's all I'm flying behind at the moment.

Is 3 kgs that important to you?

I imagine there would be a lot more flying if you could have one installed and running on the front of your plane for the same price or just slightly less than a Jabiru. If I'm doing my math correctly it's the same price to put a rotax up front... I'd go with that before shelling out a heap on a gamble.

I think the love rival is the aeroplane in many cases. Though wives generally don't go as far as sabotage.

Good to hear. Also what is very promising is that the factory appears to be very happy to sort issues as they arise and are not trying to duck the issue or pass it on elsewhere.

I was told later that it was most likely a training school that flys in regularly with students from SE Asia that have very little English.

I have seen or heard the flight or similar flights several times when I have been up that way.

Always only one spokesperson on the radio. The radio always comes across as though it is a formation but rarely does it appear to be what I would call a formation.

I always thought that if an aircraft was fitted with a radio the PIC must be qualified to use it and make mandatory calls.

Very difficult if you don't speak English.

I have flown into Gympie a bit and the formation helicopters that fly in there can be very unsettling.

One day I heard an inbound call for helicopter formation of 5 inbound at 10 nm etc.

Followed buy a joining call followed by a base call then the first helicopter came in and hovered for about a minute before taking off again.

It took me a while to work out where the other 4 were but they ended up being between 2 and 3 minutes apart and all came in, hovered for a minute then left before the next one came in.

It was a classic case of radio calls confusing what was really happening.

I am not sure what the solution to that would be but imho it would have been better for the leader to only call himself in as when he called base for the formation the 4th and 5th machine had not even joined the circuit. It was confusing thinking that a formation of 5 had joined when in fact only one had and the rest were still coming.

Without dissing what has already been said, nobody should be allowed to fly without a radio and/or without using the radio.

I believe the rules are sufficient as they are.

Havn't the foggiest who threw this into the mix about 12 near misses, could not find any verifying facts. correct me if I'm wrong. there is a hard core of people who live out here around the airport who continually complain to council about the noise from aircraft and helicopters, they have moved next to an airport knowingly, and expect rural peace and quite. And of course accolades to the ABC coverage as a prominent politician likes to state Fake news. No thats harsh its just the ABC being the ABCI live within a kilometer of the airport, I hate noisey helicopters after dark and the occasional idiot pilot who doesnt know the rules and flies much to low in the circuit, however I chose to live here knowing that a growing airport is close. if it gets to much I will sell up and move.

A house near an Airport, A 912 Drifter, and a stones throw from the Gympie Muster.

Sounds like paradise to me.

I once got asked if this dress made her bum look big.

Apparently "no your bum makes your bum look big" was not the correct response.

Just those words 'Tracking to Oakey not above 500'

Well since we don't all have a wife that can pay for it some people have to pay the real world costs to people who actually want to make some money from aviation, and I can't think of many places that are much cheaper than either of those places in the Brisbane area.

There are several schools that are lower priced.

When I read the rates in the OP my jaw nearly hit the floor.

I guess I am lucky I flew 2.5 hours today for 30 litres of fuel @ $1.47 per litre.

Even allowing for all the other costs it was still less than $100.00 per hour.

He would rather fly it than drive it.

Quicksilver GT500 Tandem 2 Seater | Recreational FlyingHe has a few videos of it on Youtube of him flying it. He flew it from my farm to Caboolture here some 125nm with no issue

I went flying with a friend of mine.Next thing you know Ive bought his plane.

one word "Addicted".

 

So now I'm learning to Fly.

Thanks.Morgan Cheetah 19 Reg, it has Dual Controls however as a 19 Reg I can't learn in it.

When you say he had free lanes on either side does that mean it was in a 3 lane section?I am just stirring but one thing that really annoys me is people who don't keep left when there is no one in the left lane within north koreas missile range! Anyway I did think overtaking on the left was a no no (but am too lazy to check the rules so happy to be corrected) which would eliminate the left lane as a legal option (albeit one I have used an awful lot). Also I thought, again with no bulletproof legal quotes, that trucks in a far right lane in some sections of three lane road was also a no no?

As a side comment, in Germany when I lived there in the 80's it was not illegal to overtake in the slow lane or on the right as it was over there, but it was illegal to be overtaken by another vehicle if he had to go into a slow lane to do it.

That meant if you were in the fast lane and came up behind a slower vehicle, then a quick flash of the lights would have them scooting over to the slower lane very quickly.

If a flash of the lights did not work then you just needed to indicate that you were going to change the slower lane and they moved over pretty quickly.

In those days it was policed very heavily and was very effective in keeping traffic to the slow lanes and kept traffic flowing.

I have suggested that Qld Transport trial it on the M1 but met with the typical WTF would you know, you are just a dumb truck driver response.

^^This attitude is one I find pervasive in the trucking industry. "It's never our fault". It doesn't matter what speed the car in front is doing, the following vehicle should not that close. But In the tens of thousands of km I drive every year, I see it on a daily basis. "But I can see over the top of the car in front" is the most-used excuse I have heard..."Trying to give him a hurry-up" is another.I have to agree with you there. The more so when you have muppets in the TWU or the Australian Trucking Association who won't man up and address such issues or others, instead trying to deflect blame from where it rightly belongs following an incident.

It just that as much as tailgating pisses some people off, over stating the incident to make others look bad pisses me of.

As for the TWU and the ATA, the are simply beaurocrats with their noses in the trough like most politicians.

They do not represent the average driver and certainly not owner drivers or small companies.

Their exorbitant fees are paid by the likes of Toll (Japan Post) etc.

Which begs the question: What advantage does your typical semi driver get by sitting 0.75m from the asre end of the car in front on the F3 at 110kph???

But in all seriousness no mechanical advantage and I would hope we one day manage to weed these cowboys out of our industry. I do however despair that this will not be an achievable outcome.

As to my first comment of over 1200 trucks tested in Qld during the month of Austrans in April, less than 1% had there speed limiter tampered with.

This involves a fine to the driver of up to $1500 and the owner of up to $15,000.

Most car speedos in Australia read between 6 and 10 kph slow at 100 kph, this is due to the regulations allowing a 10% inaccuracy in speedos but they are not allowed to read lower than the actual speed.

Trucks on the other hand in general have a less than 2% tolerance.

I carried one on my triathalon bike for years. Very handy.

at 5000 its 14.5 litre at 5200 its 15.7 litres

At 5000 I get about 18-19lph I haven't actually done accurate tests.

At 4800 I get 15.6 lph. Averaged over 200 hours. As I don't have a fuel flow meter.

5000 gives me 85 knots

Besides at 4800 and 85 knots she just feel right.

I agree: if you have only one tapered end it should face aft for minimum drag.In a similar vein, here's something to think on. A slab ended truck is cruising straight & level at 100kph. Being intellectually challenged, & poor with it, you drive up to his rear end and sit there a couple of metres away, being sucked along in his wake vortex, with your foot backed right off the accelerator.

 

So - what effect, if any, does your presence have on the fuel consumption of the truck you're following?

 

Bruce

In reply to 54, not enough to notice. Ask any dolphin surfing the bow wave of a container ship

However with a truck following a truck it gives a measurable fuel advantage to the trailing truck and a lesser disadvantage to the leading truck.

A third truck in the line gets an advantage with no noticeable change to the other two.

If however you have a larger car trailing a smaller car it can make a huge advantage to the trailing car and an equally large advantage to the smaller car.

I have trialled all combinations over long distances and if pressed could possibly even come up with some figures.

Yep...thanks Bruce. Working through the week makes that difficult unfortunately but yes I've read others do that here and seems a strange concept that must be fairly unique to this industry. I keep going back to it but I can't imagine my auto mechanic letting me into his workshop to help out.

In fact his standard rate sheet even covers it.

Hourly Rates

If you leave your Car $35.00

If you watch $45.00

If you give advice $55.00

If you help $65.00

If you already tried to fix it $75.00

If your mate fixed it $100.00

Real figures for a J230 if you are interested;123kts TAS any weight (up to RAA/LSA limit of 600kgs) any altitude up to around 7000ft (I rarely operate it above that height) @ 24 ltrs / hr. at 2900rpm.

A Six cylinder flat engine is so much more smooth than a four. There's a good reason for it too. Nev

Certainly the smoothest bike engine that I have ever seen.

The fuel injected 1800 being even better than the carby 1500.