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I put in Barkley Roadhouse in the NT. Is there another in the gulf area??Thanks JG, was wondering if anyone would get Musgrave Station. Barkley Roadhouse is another up in the gulf.JG
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Good suggestions, thanks, I'll add them when I get the time. This doesn't have to be only country pubs. Might be good to use different coloured markers for different sorts of experience. I'll work on that.Good job JG3, what a great map!If just talking food and drinks, I can think of a few more, some a bit obvious and not all that 'country' so maybe not in the spirit of it, but good for a stop.Welcome all suggestions, and we can make something interesting of this I reckon....
Keep 'em coming.
JG
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I left Toompine out because the strip is more like 3km from the pub. I walked in, and scouted places to land my Savannah just across the road, but off course can't recommend that.....No one has mentioned the Toompine Pub.Its a great little pub between Quilpie and Thargominda.Not sure about fuel availablity but rooms and plenty of beer is available, and usually a good back packer to look at ;).
No official landing strip but i have seen the odd plane drop in and say hi in fact my boss got a good photo of a lightwing ( i think )
and an R44 parked up at the pub.
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Their signature - "Toompine, the pub without a town."
JG
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Yep, it's an excellent strip. 'Shag pile' is a real good description. If it's wet and the grass is bit long, figure on a long t/o run. Easy walk to the RSL Club for food and drink.Just wondering if anyone has flown into or frequents the strip at Murwillumbah NSW.Been asked to go see a friend near there and just chasing a bit more information about the strip. Yes I know that the Murwillumbah Aeroclub would be a good start but thought I would try here first as It will be a few weeks away before I go.Cheers,
Rob
JG
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Parraburdoo is actually about 3 km from the pub. Like you say it's still walkable, but I had to draw a line somewhere and chose 1km.JG, Auski RH is a great spot. Parraburdoo has a sealed airstrip and it's about a 15 min walk to the towns pub. It wasn't on your google map but thought I'd let ya know.JG
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Here is a map of airstrips that I've used that are 1km or less from food and beer.
I consider 1km just a good bit of exercise after sitting in an aircraft for hours.
I don't know how to load a map like this into the site, but it seems that it should be accessed by one of those separate buttons. And it should be open to additions and corrections by everyone. Don't know if this is possible. Maybe need to have additions posted in a thread and a moderator add them to the map. A map is such a good way to present them visually, then just click on the balloon to get the details. And then click on 'Satellite' to see the layout. I guess Ian is pretty busy, but it would be good if we could get something like this going.....
JG
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I reckon that's a great idea, but needs to be more than just a new thread. Threads get buried under more recent threads. Needs to be some sort of register that lists strips close enough to towns for an easy walk to the pub, food and fuel. Maybe something like the map I've done for fuel supplies at http://www.stolspeed.com/outback-fuel It would need to be easily accessible for additions and corrections. I don't know how to set up something like that, but hoping someone else does.....Think we start a new thread.. Pubs I want to fly to one day...Nindigully, Cracow, Williams Creek, Noccundra hotel etc....:thumb_up:
I know quite a few of such strips, and would be glad to contribute.
JG
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Be aware that if you want fuel at Goon'di, the call out fee is $100 I was quoted once. Better check on weekends....I'll stop at Goondiwindi too.If you just want a bladder stop, Inglewood is a nice quiet strip along the same track.
JG
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Is Betoota pub open again???Any Western Qld town will have a Pub & fuel or they don't have an economy and reason to exist. Some have a pub and no town - like Betoota, Toompine, Cooladdi-Fox Trap, Middleton.SueJG
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Bollon is nowhere near the desert, it's still mulga country all round. Bollon strip is a fair walk from town.... Dirranbandi is about the same distance out from Brisbane, and the strip is right beside town. Fuel and pub in town. I've never had problems camping there.Anyone been there? Its about 300 miles East of Brisbane and seems to be on the edge of the desert. Im thinking it could be a good introduction to an overnight trip. There is a little pub but I dont know if there is a servo. The strip is dirt, not sure who ownes it. -
Yeh, I intend to write all that up, with fueling details, etc, but it will have to wait for summer until I have the time, and it's too hot to work outside.Hi JG3I too am very interested in your itinerary, the places you landed at and the availability of avgas and/or mogas.You have the legs of me by many a mile so I need to be sure of obtaining fuel for the Auster at intervals preferably of 250 and certainly no more than 300 miles.
kaz
JG
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I really don't know. I'm not very clued in this internet maze..... I just tried the link in your quote and it came up for me. Maybe you have to be registered in Picasa, but I thought it would prompt you. Could it be a setting on your computer denying images?? I'm afraid I can't help more.....Hi John,I can't seem to get the photos to come up, any ideas why?Pete
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OK I'll change that, thanks.Hi JGMy brother who used to be on an iron ore ship, said that Koolan Island was an Iron ore deposit not Bauxite.Also of interest, nearby Cockatoo Island (80% iron ore) had a long par 4 fairway which was also the aircraft runway. Golfers had to give way to planes; rightly so.
He also commented on the excellent quality of the pics.
Phil.
JG
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No, the other way round. Only if installed in the Warp Drive hub does the diameter match the label. In the Bolly hub it's 2" less.Mark,I could be wrong, that would make the second time this year for me too, but I had thought that you only lose the 2" of diameter when you install Bolly blade in a Warpdrive hub.Steve H...
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It's this weather site. On BOM 'Land and Water'Just realised the stupid question on "full page" expand it!but weather site has me guessing still.My favorite, with coloured pictures instead of coded jiberish.
I've been watching it for several years, and find it's forecasts very accurate.
http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/watl/rainfall/pme.jsp
There's also a very good wind site along with it at
http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/watl/wind/index.jsp
JG
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Too right it's not big enough. Put in a much larger one, with heavy duty soldered lugs. Use the original cable as an added earth direct to the starter motor body, paralleling the earth through the chassis.Hi GregOne question about the main battery cable to the solenoid...the original doesnt seem big enough maybe I am wrong you have built 3 of them does the battery cable need to be upgraded of the original is fine?Mark
JG
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[ Wouldn't it be lovely if Max Tedesco also got a mention:
Actually Max Tedesco will be at OSH this year.
After I published that article, Eric Giles, USA agent for Savannah, got in touch with Max and expressed that he didn't feel right about profiting from work that Max had done but was stolen from him. Then Eric went to Colombia to meet Max, and they hit it off right away, and now have formed a strong partnership. Max will be displaying his latest design named 'Spirit', which Eric will market in the USA. Max isn't one for self-promotion, but I know of several fliers from Aus and USA who are looking forward to shaking his hand and congratulating him. I'm off to OSH this year as well, and really looking forward to meeting up with them.
JG
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Yeh, I'll write up the details when I can make the time. Lots of other chores been neglected and need catching up.....Love the piccies, can you tell us a little of the logistics of the tripWhat ADs did you plan for? Max flying hours per day? Fuel availability? Overnight stops etcCheers
Bryon
JG
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In May I did a flying trip in my Savannah from Kilcoy, SE Qld, across the center to Shark Bay, then around about the Kimberley and Pilbara, then back home across the center. Photos are at:
https://picasaweb.google.com/woblywallaby/WestAustraliaTrip?authkey=Gv1sRgCJbzvM23iO6-vgE
To get full screen view press F11 on your keyboard. Click on the right arrow at the bottom of the screen to advance the pictures.
JG
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I've added a home-made lumbar support for the lower back - that's essential. Then a 50mm foam pad under all the seat and extending forward past the front of the base. Don't what grade of foam, just from an old cushion. This helps to spread the load to the backs of the thighs rather than all just on the butt. On long trips I also tuck my camping pillow under the front of all that, to carry even more weight on the thighs. It's crude but works pretty well. I just got back from a 145hr trip around WA. Many 6 and 7 hr days.... Wouldn't have been able to do that if the seating was original. Backside complained some, but then it does carry all the load and doesn't get to see the view.....On the Savannah threads there are complaints about the seating. I am building a plane and have got to the stage where I am thinking about seating comfort.Has anyone any experience of seating design, or built their own seating which is comfortable. What materials are considered the best?JG
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The Origins of both the 701 and the Savannah aircraft designs
We keep hearing the accusation that the ICP Savannah is a rip-off copy of the CH701.
Well, that’s not true at all.
This is the true story of how it all happened.
At Sun’nFun 1983, Chris Heintz and Max Tedesco, who had first met in 1980, started considering the possibility of designing an all-metal ultralight using conventional aircraft construction. At that time most ultralights were very basic tube and fabric construction.
First sketches started on scraps of paper and napkins right then, at a Lakeland café, one evening from 6 pm to midnight, with Max’s younger daughter sleeping on a chair… This was followed by six trips from Columbia to Canada by Tedesco, to work on the design with Heintz, and to check the flying characteristics of the plane, Max being a very experienced pilot, and a good test pilot. Several modifications were incorporated to the design following these test flights. That’s a considerable involvement on his part! Max is a very modest man, so when he emphasizes to me that he contributed a lot to that process, I take that to mean a whole lot.
So the 701 itself wasn’t designed only by Chris Heitz, it was already very much a joint venture.
Now that’s a surprise to all of you, eh!!!
But as Max says, “An aircraft design needs only one ‘father’, so Chris took on that roll and Max stayed in the background.
At this point we need to introduce Max Tedesco. Born in Colombia, he went to a Technical High School in Italy, studied Mechanical Engineering at MIT, then Aeronautical Engineering at McGill University, specializing in monocoque and semi-monocoque construction. He set up an aircraft factory in Colombia and built a variety of aircraft under license, often modified for agricultural spraying. These are ideal qualifications and experience to work on the design of an aircraft such as the 701. To learn more about Max have a look at http://aeroandina.com/eng/maximo.htm
http://www.aeroandina.com/eng/historia.htm
When the prototype 701 was flying, Heintz began selling plans and kits from Canada, while Tedesco returned to Colombia and commenced manufacturing ready-to-fly 701s. By 1990, when I first met him at Sun’nFun, Tedesco had built 112 701s for the South American market, and had introduced in 1989, the first 80% ready kit as a world exclusive.
In those days, Zenair used to assemble a 701 during the week of Sun’nFun and fly it at the end of the air show. I noticed that the quick-build kit that we assembled at Sun’nFun in 1990 was one of those made in Colombia, not Canada....
Max is an innovative and experimental engineer, and couldn’t help seeking improvements to the 701. Any designer will know that a first prototype can almost always be improved, and evolution leads to better and better results. The 701 prototype had lots of aspects that could be improved (and it still does....) Max was never satisfied with the cutaway over the cabin and the inverted airfoil horizontal stabilizer. So Max redesigned the 701 to become the first MXP 740 in October 1992, with a longer wing, and a different cockpit construction to accommodate the carry-through centre wing section instead of the cut-away. Also, a different tail section, with a symmetrical horizontal stabilizer instead of the inverted airfoil of the 701, larger elevator, and conventional rudder on a fixed vertical stabilizer.
In Kitplanes Magazine December 1997 there’s a photograph of Chris and Max in Colombia looking over an MXP 640, Max’s derivation of the 601 which was completed in November 92. This was a month after the first 740, so Chris saw and experienced the 740 at that time. Chris had a chance to incorporate those mods, but chose to stay with the original 701, while Max went on to produce the much improved 740’s.
Max was exporting 740’s to an agent in Italy for the European market, and had shipped 142 ready-made aircraft there. Little did he realize that the agent had set up a factory nearby, which became ICP, and who then disassembled a 740 and copied it into a CNC machine, pretty much rivet hole by rivet hole!
It was this rip-off copy that became the Savannah.
SO THAT’S THE TRUE STORY OF HOW THE SAVANNAH CAME TO BE!
Credit where credit is due, eh........
Full credit must go to Max Tedesco!
He designed a great aircraft, for which others are now reaping the benefit......
Max couldn’t find any protection from patent law, and so his company ended up in bankruptcy and he lost his house as well........
Then, how about the twisted irony that, when BRM in Portugal copied the Savannah, ICP tried to sue them! I’m told that lawsuit failed, and so it should have.....
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But the sad story doesn’t end there at all........
It’s way too long for a forum posting so read it at
http://www.stolspeed.com/origins-701-savannah
-There’s a whole lot more about how Max’s other designs have been ripped off in Eastern Europe, and at home....
-Remember the “Patriot” that was going to be Zenith’s LSA entry?? That was designed and built by Max and company.
-To see what one of Max’s other designs can do, have a look at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0_DGNKlzXs
-Find out about the ‘Guardian’ aircraft that Max has been asked to supply for US law enforcement.
-See the new designs Max has coming out in the spring.
- The story’s not over for this man, who’s a brilliant designer, but who doesn’t do much for self-promotion.....
His work sure deserves to be better known and recognized!
More at http://www.stolspeed.com/origins-701-savannah
John Gilpin
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The Origins of both the 701 and the Savannah aircraft designs
We keep hearing the accusation that the ICP Savannah is a rip-off copy of the CH701.
Well, that’s not true at all.
This is the true story of how it all happened.
At Sun’nFun 1983, Chris Heintz and Max Tedesco, who had first met in 1980, started considering the possibility of designing an all-metal ultralight using conventional aircraft construction. At that time most ultralights were very basic tube and fabric construction.
First sketches started on scraps of paper and napkins right then, at a Lakeland café, one evening from 6 pm to midnight, with Max’s younger daughter sleeping on a chair… This was followed by six trips from Columbia to Canada by Tedesco, to work on the design with Heintz, and to check the flying characteristics of the plane, Max being a very experienced pilot, and a good test pilot. Several modifications were incorporated to the design following these test flights. That’s a considerable involvement on his part! Max is a very modest man, so when he emphasizes to me that he contributed a lot to that process, I take that to mean a whole lot.
So the 701 itself wasn’t designed only by Chris Heitz, it was already very much a joint venture.
Now that’s a surprise to all of you, eh!!!
But as Max says, “An aircraft design needs only one ‘father’, so Chris took on that roll and Max stayed in the background.
At this point we need to introduce Max Tedesco. Born in Colombia, he went to a Technical High School in Italy, studied Mechanical Engineering at MIT, then Aeronautical Engineering at McGill University, specializing in monocoque and semi-monocoque construction. He set up an aircraft factory in Colombia and built a variety of aircraft under license, often modified for agricultural spraying. These are ideal qualifications and experience to work on the design of an aircraft such as the 701. To learn more about Max have a look at http://aeroandina.com/eng/maximo.htm
http://www.aeroandina.com/eng/historia.htm
When the prototype 701 was flying, Heintz began selling plans and kits from Canada, while Tedesco returned to Colombia and commenced manufacturing ready-to-fly 701s. By 1990, when I first met him at Sun’nFun, Tedesco had built 112 701s for the South American market, and had introduced in 1989, the first 80% ready kit as a world exclusive.
In those days, Zenair used to assemble a 701 during the week of Sun’nFun and fly it at the end of the air show. I noticed that the quick-build kit that we assembled at Sun’nFun in 1990 was one of those made in Colombia, not Canada....
Max is an innovative and experimental engineer, and couldn’t help seeking improvements to the 701. Any designer will know that a first prototype can almost always be improved, and evolution leads to better and better results. The 701 prototype had lots of aspects that could be improved (and it still does....) Max was never satisfied with the cutaway over the cabin and the inverted airfoil horizontal stabilizer. So Max redesigned the 701 to become the first MXP 740 in October 1992, with a longer wing, and a different cockpit construction to accommodate the carry-through centre wing section instead of the cut-away. Also, a different tail section, with a symmetrical horizontal stabilizer instead of the inverted airfoil of the 701, larger elevator, and conventional rudder on a fixed vertical stabilizer.
In Kitplanes Magazine December 1997 there’s a photograph of Chris and Max in Colombia looking over an MXP 640, Max’s derivation of the 601 which was completed in November 92. This was a month after the first 740, so Chris saw and experienced the 740 at that time. Chris had a chance to incorporate those mods, but chose to stay with the original 701, while Max went on to produce the much improved 740’s.
Max was exporting 740’s to an agent in Italy for the European market, and had shipped 142 ready-made aircraft there. Little did he realize that the agent had set up a factory nearby, which became ICP, and who then disassembled a 740 and copied it into a CNC machine, pretty much rivet hole by rivet hole!
It was this rip-off copy that became the Savannah.
SO THAT’S THE TRUE STORY OF HOW THE SAVANNAH CAME TO BE!
Credit where credit is due, eh........
Full credit must go to Max Tedesco!
He designed a great aircraft, for which others are now reaping the benefit......
Max couldn’t find any protection from patent law, and so his company ended up in bankruptcy and he lost his house as well........
Then, how about the twisted irony that, when BRM in Portugal copied the Savannah, ICP tried to sue them! I’m told that lawsuit failed, and so it should have.....
....................................................................................................................
But the sad story doesn’t end there at all........
It’s way too long for a forum posting so read it at
http://www.stolspeed.com/origins-701-savannah
-There’s a whole lot more about how Max’s other designs have been ripped off in Eastern Europe, and at home....
-Remember the “Patriot” that was going to be Zenith’s LSA entry?? That was designed and built by Max and company.
-To see what one of Max’s other designs can do, have a look at
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0_DGNKlzXs
-Find out about the ‘Guardian’ aircraft that Max has been asked to supply for US law enforcement.
-See the new designs Max has coming out in the spring.
- The story’s not over for this man, who’s a brilliant designer, but who doesn’t do much for self-promotion.....
His work sure deserves to be better known and recognized!
More at http://www.stolspeed.com/origins-701-savannah
John Gilpin
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No, there was no mention of any problems, and I did talk with a couple of the pilots. They were friendly, and told me that Cambridge is open to RAAus aircraft, which I didn't know before. The weather was not the best when I got there, and the voluntary ranger invited me to camp over in the hikers hut. Didn't seem to be any problems......
I reckon just fly in when you're ready. Park up by the toilet at the eastern end, that's right out of their way.
Good fun to watch them plant those loaded Islanders right on the end of that strip that's just big enough for them.
I live by the old adage, "It's usually easier to seek forgiveness than permission....."
JG
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The 'tiger country' in the SW, along the west coast, and even up in the interior mountains, isn't as bad as you might think. Usually some 'heath' country around, low shrubby bush, looks like it would be a fairly well cushioned quick stop..... Probably damaged landing gear and bent aircraft but survivable. Would need a helicopter to get out tho, as no vehicle tracks at all.... The worst area is Franklin River - tall timber and steep gorges....
JG
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