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and you'd say the same if your loved ones were onboard? me thinks not. besides the awesome safety record of air travel has got there due to a never ending pursuit of facts after an accident

Yes - still operating. Don't know which days tho. I fly from next door club (Sydney Recreational Flying Club) and Dave's there every weekend (wx permitting of course)

Wouldn't a good, simple, inexpensive start be to fit every RAA a/c flight with a Gopro or equiv? Yes I know it doesn't prove the cause of an accident but it may provide some strong clues?

wow- operator only changed last Thursday?!

A 1996 King Air operated by MyJet Aviation of East Bendigo. Very Sad

Of course all pilots know that in an aircraft accident there is almost never just one reason - usually the good old chain of events.. I wonder if the sun was a contributing factor here... he's flying into it and as the wing drops a significant reflective flash of the sun can be seen on the windscreen. As he started to tighten the turn was he momentarily blinded and lost his horizon reference? Plus (as Dutch alluded to) - the startle factor. (love that Dutch!). I guess we'll never know but I suggest there are a lot more chain links to this tragedy than a simple "he stalled it turning finals".

Thanks Kaz

Are you sure Mr. Happy?... My app says Wyndham Aviation P/L, of the same address.

What an odd thing to say (not knowing the whole conversation of course). I mean it surely would depend on whether the pilot was ab initio vs highly experienced

Good on Peter Harlow from Foxbat Australia for being so quick to post a preliminary report.

The weak nose wheels were the Achilles heel of early Foxbats but they've progressively beefed them up with several design revisions. This Vixen nose wheel should have been the beneficiary of that legacy of an improved strong nose wheel. Just guessing, therefore, that on a previous touch and go the pilot may have subjected it to a very serious side loading (x wind / gusts?) &/or wheel barrow. New to type also? I trust Peter Harlow from Foxbat Australia will be seriously investigating that on this new type.

I already stated I don't buy "The Captain dun it" theory. Why would he kill 100's coz he was a bit peed off with the politics in Malaysia? And/or where was his history of insanity, a la the German Wings FO? I could go on. Suffice it to say - It doesn't have enough evidence to assert such imo. If there is please enlighten me? I have never supported any conspiracy theories. However, in this case I suggest we should be considering UMNO racketeers as a possibility. A well planned suicide operative could have done this - and brilliantly (in a vile way) made it look like it was the Skipper. And I suggest more than a few wildcard nutters in the UMNO tentacles thought they had good motive to do so. A bit Hollywood??? ... yea I used to think like that... until 9/11 "Fact can be stranger than fiction" ? Cheers

Onetrack: Old galleons would have got blown East with their hull and sail areas easily, for sure. However with MH370 I think you are assuming that the 777 hull floated. I doubt it floated at all. Even if it ditched successfully (which is highly unlikely) it would not have floated for long. Hence the currents would surely be the dictator, not the winds? Would the prevailing currents have brought it to WA, based roughly on the current search area? Cheers

Thanks.. and whats the duration of the pilot o2 on a 772ER ?

I suggest we can be reasonably confident in assuming that for at least the last, say, 6 hours of flight all aboard were deceased. How EERIE is that?? DR: Can I pick your brain again please? How long do most 777 pilot oxygen systems last? ... Let's say best case scenario - a 777LR? I can probably troll thru PPRUNE and find this info but, quite frankly, that site mostly drives me nuts. Cheers