ave8rr

I join with everybody in condolences and sadness for the loss of life and severe injury to the aircraft's occupants.I hope that the accident investigation looks beyond the circumstances of the accident to also looking at occupant safety issues that may have contributed to the severity of the accident result.

 

I believe that this is something that warrants concern, given that the designer of the Bristell is also the designer of two of the three worst aircraft for accident safety in this report: http://www.jabiru.net.au/images/The Aviation Consumer - LSA Accidents.pdf - the CAW Sport Cruiser and the Evektor. Also the designer of the Piper Sports, that Piper removed from sale after very few were delivered to the market.

It has been reported that that aircraft was most likely in a flat spin.

ATSB Report.

Investigation: AO-2016-112 - Collision with terrain involving Jabiru J170, 24-5215, at Yarram aerodrome, Victoria on 7 September 2016

Pity we don't see more reports like this one published for Rec Aviation Accidents.

Only 8' 10" ....

5' 10" is closer to the mark.

Cheers Mike

I agree with KRviator re room to move in the -9 and the fuel capacity. I do max 3.5 hr legs in our -9A. In the -4, half that as you can't move about at all. I am only 8' 10" and 70kg.

The other factor to consider is the very small tailwheel on the rougher strips you may encounter out and beyond. I asume you have flown the RV-4 hence your interest in the type.

Mike.

Preliminary Report.

Investigation: AO-2017-057 - Collision with terrain involving Cessna 441, VH-XMJ near Renmark Airport, South Australia on 30 May 2017

Pity RAAus cannot publish Preliminary Reports with known info such as above. Just the known facts.

Good to see OZ Runways info has been used in absence of CVR/FDR info.

Anything but the latest gen 4 Jabiru would have similar questions, plenty of parts no longer available

Safe Landing after reported "Suspected" engine failure near Bundaberg.

UPDATE: Bundy pilot praised for landing crashing plane

Have you seen the alternative service provider list - can't say it increases my desire to pay the government for a useless service.

Mike.....

Looks like ASIC Issue / Renewal will become a lot more difficult after Aug. RAAus will no longer be doing this work.

The Piper Vagabond has the metal spar wings and ribs. No need to find a LAME with wood inspection approvals (getting scarce) that are required for the Auster, early Champs J3, Cubs and Taylorcraft etc. I guess this is not a problem with owner maintenance however something to consider when looking at these "Old Girls".

Heath, what about a 1948 piper vagabond? Midlife Continental A-65.

PM if interested.

Thanks Mike, I left a message on his phone a few days ago too (30/5), but he hasn't got back to me yet. I figured if anyone could understand my predicament it'd be Darren. I am starting to feel like a leper!

Steve Dines did the paperwork but he was in good health then.

Cheers Mike

The RAAus Technical Mgr Darren Barnfield is issuing EXperimental C of A according to completions photos in the SAAA magazine. Maybe worth a call although I think he lives in MEL.

Cheers Mike

This Sonerai started out as a mid wing version and was converted to low wing. I read that RAAus are seeking the assistance of the ATSB. I wonder if this may be to check for welding or metal fatigue or similar?

The wing may not have had the "S" mods carried out to the spars. Time will tell.

Yes, you're quite right ave8rr. See my post "ULF-2". Mods, can you please change the title of this thread to ULF-2? I can't :(Ave8rr, do you have any knowledge of the ULF-2? Looks very nice in specs, vids, pix, etc.

Cheers Mike

Does anyone have experience of this motor glider? Or know of any being built in Oz?It looks like a fun plane, and there are very few wood & fabric motor glider plans available.

 

I'm getting the urge to build again, & the ULF is on my shortlist. Though I'd probably substitute an MZ201 for the converted Citroen Visa called up in the plans.

 

Bruce

NZ seems to be having a discussion re PPL medical standards.

Review of Private Pilot Licence Medical Certification Requirements | Civil Aviation Authority of New Zealand

It was mentioned round the coffee table at the airstrip this morning that it was Jabiru who bought Camit plant and equipment at the clearing auction. Having been out of the country for six weeks recently, have I missed something or does someone have an authoritive rebuttal? Massively curious.

Aside from an unknown structural issue, what do think might be learned from this event that isn't already common knowledge?

Could be structural.

Could be Medical.

Could have be carrying out manouvres at less than a safe height.

It's now in the hands of the investigating team.

Correct me if i am wrong but if its RA rego, we will not see anyone from the ATSB

The Adelaide Soaring club at Gawler have just got a new Jabiru with the new engine. It will be interesting to see how it goes.Over the last 15 years, there have been thousands of hours run up here in Jabirus with very few engine problems. I don't mean for this to sound like an advert, but other engines ( Subaru, Revmaster, Rotax) have also had problems and they are not used in training like the Jabiru.

I'm hopeful that the new Jab engine will prove to be very reliable, so I can buy one when the time comes.

RIP Ian.

I hope the authorities will be able to determine the cause of the accident.

According to Channel 7 morning news, this is the aircraft involved, a Sonerai IIL. The photo is from a "Sold" advert on Aviation Trader. That colour will make it hard to spot in tiger country.[ATTACH=full]50381[/ATTACH]

There is another green mid wing Sonerai in the area.

Have heard that the missing aircraft is a Sonerai?