Nev25 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 I'm hearing talk about a Recreational class being introduced into helicopters Including a new class of craft and a new Licence class Anyone know anything or got any details Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentreau Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Interesting, we already have them in France :) Only a few models available at the moment, but more in the pipeline. A couple of examples below: http://www.kompress.fr/ http://www.heli-tech.fr/helicoptere-ulm-lh212.php http://www.innovator.mosquito.net.nz/mbbs2/index.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarly Gnu Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Asked a CASA guy about this last year, he vowed it would absolutely not happen on safety grounds. Guess it wouldn't help the RaAus fatality record any.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vev Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Asked a CASA guy about this last year, he vowed it would absolutely not happen on safety grounds.Guess it wouldn't help the RaAus fatality record any.... Was CASA saying that RAA pilots can't be trained to fly helicopters safely? I wonder what the French experience is ??? Cheers Vev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarly Gnu Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 He insisted to me it would remain PPL(H). I don't think CASA care much about what works in other countries, they have their own little fiefdom here to regulate. But I'm interested if Nev has something very different? Meanwhile best to get a H licence in NZ or USA I would suggest, never going to be cost effective here at least in the foreseeable future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 That's Vev Not Nev. I'm a foundation member of the keep away from crazy palm trees club. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarly Gnu Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Nev25. There are others out there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 I was here first!. Nev 01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vev Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 That's Vev Not Nev. I'm a foundation member of the keep away from crazy palm trees club. Nev Just recently I got a chance to get a couple of hours in an R22 and had a ball ... I need count my pennies for more time. Cheers Vev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 You're not Robinson Crusoe there. Vev. Nev 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentreau Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Was CASA saying that RAA pilots can't be trained to fly helicopters safely?I wonder what the French experience is ??? Cheers Vev Not much feedback yet, they were legalised last year and the first batch of pilots only really started flying this year. Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark11 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 140hrs to get your licence in aus - according to colleague at work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nev25 Posted June 22, 2013 Author Share Posted June 22, 2013 The main reason I asked was I asked a Question on Rotary licence on an Australia Helicopter forum After some not to the point answers I posted this pic and asked what Licence I would need to fly it. After the Lectures on unlicensed Flying I got told Recreational Pilots are pests so Go away and annoy someone else (Not in as many words) and when I asked why in response I got my postings deleted (there not a friendly bunch over there). One did say take a look at the new Part61 changes that CASA are introducing Another said one would need a Private Copter licence to fly it My point is as it would cost $30,000 upwards to obtain the licence why would one bother when a Fixed wing recreational Certificate could be obtained for around $5,000 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentreau Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 A friend of mine who is a very experienced fixed wing pilot (also my original instructor) just got his PPL-H in 39 hours, the minimum possible. Why would a recreational rotary licence take so much longer than that ? . (confused of Surrey) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nev25 Posted June 22, 2013 Author Share Posted June 22, 2013 Why would a recreational rotary licence take so much longer than that ? . Because there isn't one yet ?????? Hence the Question 50 hours I believe to get a private rotary Licence Most charge around $500/h Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarly Gnu Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 I thought there was a recreational H license in NZ? But perhaps they won't recognise that here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 There is "moves afoot"............mums the word tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nev25 Posted June 23, 2013 Author Share Posted June 23, 2013 There is "moves afoot"............mums the word tho. Oh DO tell ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Get the private rotary licence. If ever there is a RAAus equivalent the qualifications will transfer like they do with the fixed wing, glider etc. All the hours come over but some want 5 more hours of which one is solo minimum. I can put you in contact with a very experienced Robinson instructor. Choppers cost more to fly as they are a bit maintenance intensive... Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nev25 Posted June 24, 2013 Author Share Posted June 24, 2013 Get the private rotary licence. If ever there is a RAAus equivalent the qualifications will transfer like they do with the fixed wing, glider etc. All the hours come over but some want 5 more hours of which one is solo minimum. I can put you in contact with a very experienced Robinson instructor. Choppers cost more to fly as they are a bit maintenance intensive... Nev Thanks Nev But as I said My point is as it would cost $30,000 upwards to obtain the licence why would one bother when a Fixed wing recreational Certificate could be obtained for around $5,000 . And it seems that the rotary licenced Paternity don't want a Rec Class.... Nev25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 But they are not anything like the same thing. IF you are a "chopper" person exclusively or primarily. The Paternity might be a little accident shy. I did a survey of heli incidents in the late 60's and 27% of them were written off in the year in question. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nev25 Posted June 24, 2013 Author Share Posted June 24, 2013 I also find it strange the in the USA you don't need a licence at all to fly such craft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightyknots Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Nev25.There are others out there... Nev 25 is the one that doesn't hunt the facts ...as far as we know, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightyknots Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 I can confirm that it is possible to get a microlight helicopter licence in New Zealand. Training for this is available on both the North and South Island. Here is one of the NZ microlight choppers (ZK-IXE) called a Mosquito made from a kit produced by a Florida USA - based company. \/ \/ \/ \/ . Website: http://www.innovator.mosquito.net.nz/mbbs2/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted June 24, 2013 Share Posted June 24, 2013 Have one of these mosquitos parked in my front yard at the minute, mate is enroute NT, he also happins to be Oz importer of these machines........it looks very nice. Complete kit around $35000.00. Pic coming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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