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16+ Years: Qantas’ Oldest Airbus A380 Returns To Service https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIH1ABddgSE

Oh, thank you. When you put it that way, even I can understand it.

To me they did all they could have done. They were very unlucky to have that cabal of public servants throw a spanner in their works at the last hurdle. In fact, the 'main issue' of this thread extends to the region. From the Original Post

Yeah, I'd say Forums definitely have their place, for a few reasons. Anyway, could it be that you'd still be better off with a SkyEcho2 ('entry level' ADSB IN-OUT ) while the rebate is still available and then getting your transponder back (if not your deposit - which'd pay for a subsidised SE2) so that you could still operate in controlled airspace as per normal?

That Williamsdale proposal was devised and defeated over a decade ago. It very much involved the ACT Government. It was a very bitter experience for the aviation enthusiasts who worked up the proposal very professionally only to be tripped at the last hurdle. Posting this link again - a detailed telling of the story from their POV Home | Canberra's Second Airport WWW.CANBERRASECONDAIRPORT.COM

Man, 71, dies when his experimental aircraft crashes in Groveland WWW.DAILYCOMMERCIAL.COM An unregistered experimental aircraft crashed at the Groveland airport at 1:30 p.m. April 19, killing the pilot, according to the FAA. Bobby Bailey's own Dragonfly in this video appears to have a ballistic parachute installed. Presumably the new build that got him hadn't yet.

Nice one, Nev. I wasn't expecting back-up from you on that one ... so all the more chuffed! LOL

I did notice that. What I haven't noticed is a great deal of difference in that regard locally. Poor benighted, ignorant pilots. They must be protected them from all and any information that might confuse them.

Aware or not, in his words, it's stuff "they don't teach you in the FAA written or private pilot licence."

If you're referring to Juan Browne's little big-push demo ... yeah, basic and obvious; still, you sense some exasperation in his voice: "Look at that, Zero G! ... You cannot stall an aircraft at zero G!". It's as if he's fed up that so basic a fact seems far from obvious to many who fly aeroplanes or even instruct in them.

TKS?

No, I'm quoting 10.5's post:

Yeah, I think there are a couple of issues mixed up here, Mark. 'Compliance' as to proper full ADSB-out systems is one thing and, as you say, requires, among other things, a certified GPS source. But the other question is one we've been asking for years: does ATC yet have the ability to 'see' EC devices - if only as a "situational awareness" tool within their limited range. That's what the authorities have long been suggesting will happen but I've never heard that it is the case anywhere in the country. (See the article I quoted above, for example) Do you have any more info on that?

Yeah, interesting but puzzling; what ATC (Canberra Approach and/or Tower?) are telling you. Maybe the tech has not trickled down yet or maybe they choose not to deal with any additional "situational awareness" capacity. As to the Garmin quote, as far as I understand it, that wouldn't bear on the issue of whether or not ATC have commissioned the gear that lets them "see" EC devices (as foreshadowed in the Flight Safety Australia article [above]).

I don't think Thruster misses the point - or even disputes conventional wisdom about straight ahead being best. To me he's just putting the emphasis back where it belongs: if you don't get flying speed NOW, you won't be landing anywhere (in the conventional sense). Juan Browne makes the same point in this 2 minute quickie on the subject.