WayneL Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 http://southburnett.com.au/news2/2015/02/pilot-escapes-injury/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted February 12, 2015 Share Posted February 12, 2015 Great job by the pilot, but a pity ATSB couldn't spend a few minutes on this one establishing the cause. Maybe a hose blew, maybe the cap was left off, maybe the fire started in the air etc. and we would have some practical lessons to learn from 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poteroo Posted February 13, 2015 Share Posted February 13, 2015 Great job by the pilot, but a pity ATSB couldn't spend a few minutes on this one establishing the cause.Maybe a hose blew, maybe the cap was left off, maybe the fire started in the air etc. and we would have some practical lessons to learn from This is where SAAA should be recording details. The aircraft was likely built under their program, signed off by their member AP, and maybe even pilot maintained under their MPC program. We can't rely on ATSB because they're not looking for any more work than the minimum. happy days, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyvulcan Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 The SAAA has a Safety Managment System which includes a reporting system for such events. However, participation in the system is voluntary, not mandatory so if the owner/pilot is an SAAA member, he would be encouraged to report the incident, but is not obligated to do so. The SAAA has no authority whatsoever to investigate any accident or incident. It is purely a support organisation. This is where SAAA should be recording details. Agreed, it would be good if the SAAA could determine the circumstances and causes of this incident and promulgate that information to its members. However, they would need to establish that information from external sources if the incident was not reported under their voluntary reporting scheme. I think that perhaps some clarification is in order about the role and authorities of the SAAA which I will do so by addressing some quotes from above posts. The aircraft was likely built under their program, For clarification, experimental CofA aircraft are built in accordance with CASA regulations. Their certification and operation are in no way administered by the SAAA. The SAAA does however offer its members the ability to voluntarily participate in their Builders Assist Program which offers their members stage inspections of their project by experienced Technical Councillors who can provide advice about the progress of their project. This is advice only and the builder is under no compulsion to heed the TCs advice. Participation by SAAA members in the BAP is not mandatory and is solely at the discretion of the member. signed off by their member AP, All APs are CASA APs, not SAAA APs. Some APs just happen to be SAAA members but the SAAA currently has no responsibilities associated with APs. and maybe even pilot maintained under their MPC program. No aircraft are maintained under the SAAA MPC "program". Aircraft are maintained in accordance with CASA regulations. The MPC is simply a CASA approved training course that qualifies the person who successfully completes the course to sign off the annual inspection. The MPC is not a maintenance system, nor is it a program. It is simply a training course. While Poteroos post is not having a dig at the SAAA, and I agree with his sentiment that it would be good for the SAAA to be able to determine what has happened in relation to this incident because it is likely that the ATSB will not do so, I felt that it would be appropriate to clarify some of the roles and responsibilities of the SAAA to give a better understanding of their involvement in these sorts of processes. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poteroo Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 While Poteroos post is not having a dig at the SAAA, and I agree with his sentiment that it would be good for the SAAA to be able to determine what has happened in relation to this incident because it is likely that the ATSB will not do so, I felt that it would be appropriate to clarify some of the roles and responsibilities of the SAAA to give a better understanding of their involvement in these sorts of processes. Well explained FV. In an ideal aviation world .........the regulator, whose name is built around the word safety, would actually acquire all aviation incident and accident details, by way of having all of them investigated to a varying extent, and use these data to develop a better safety message. happy days, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 It's the LAW to report anything unsafe about aircraft operation(s) by anyone becoming aware of it. CASA should therefore have something on everything that happens unless it is a remote area with no survivors, if the law is enforced. Nev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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