fly_tornado Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 from reading RAAP 1, you can't do "type" training in a #19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head in the clouds Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 from reading RAAP 1, you can't do "type" training in a #19 If you can do any training in it (which you most definitely can), you can certainly do 'type' or familiarisation flying in it. FYI there's no such thing as type training in RAA, unless it were for tailwheel, nosewheel, HP, LP etc and RAA choose to call them 'endorsements'. What drives you with all this negativity FT? It's quite bizarre ... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winsor68 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 respected CFI who was killed in a Morgan because the aircraft was not fit for flight. Which accident was that? Was this confirmed? I am not doubting it due to "stuff" that happened locally with a Morgan aircraft that I heard about from my former instructor. Just curious to know that anyone has officially shown this to be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 If you can do any training in it (which you most definitely can), you can certainly do 'type' or familiarisation flying in it. FYI there's no such thing as type training in RAA, unless it were for tailwheel, nosewheel, HP, LP etc and RAA choose to call them 'endorsements'.What drives you with all this negativity FT? It's quite bizarre ... that RAAP is 'plain english' and that RAAP doesn't mention anywhere that you can put an instructor into a #19 aircraft, its just saying that you need type training. It doesn't even mention tail wheel training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nong Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Which accident was that? Was this confirmed? I am not doubting it due to "stuff" that happened locally with a Morgan aircraft that I heard about from my former instructor. Just curious to know that anyone has officially shown this to be the case. Graham White CFI and Ralph Buchanan were up from Moruya on 6th July 2014. They went down into the sea. After quite some effort, the wreck was recovered. I understand they lost pitch control due to an error of assembly. You might like to find the ATSB report on the ferris wheel crash. It has photos of very shoddy construction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Which accident was that? Was this confirmed? I am not doubting it due to "stuff" that happened locally with a Morgan aircraft that I heard about from my former instructor. Just curious to know that anyone has officially shown this to be the case. I don't believe that there has been a formal announcement of the result of any investigation but not long after the recovery of the wreck of the aircraft in the Moruya crash RAAus published the bulletin at the link below. I have lost the notification email from the time but i think (i was a while ago and I could be wrong) it said something along the lines that the investigation was continuing but that this issues was considered important enough to warrant the issue of the bulletin before the conclusion of the investigation.... https://www.raa.asn.au/storage/bowden-cable-bulkhead-nuts-bulletin-21072014-1.pdf That accident has lead to some instructors being reluctant to train people in both VH-experimental and 19 registered aircraft. As the builder of an Aircraft I can understand that not everyone might want to fly in it. That is their choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyflyer Posted November 7, 2017 Share Posted November 7, 2017 Which accident was that? Was this confirmed? I am not doubting it due to "stuff" that happened locally with a Morgan aircraft that I heard about from my former instructor. Just curious to know that anyone has officially shown this to be the case. The ATSB were not very complimentary about the Morgan aircraft that hit the ferris wheel at Old Bar. It wasn't amateur build but i think it resulted in all '24' registered aircraft of that type becoming '19'. https://www.atsb.gov.au/media/4888846/ao2011126_final.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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