IBob Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Despite the carpet in my kit being precut, fitting it wasn't the pleasure I thought it would be. I was using Ados F2 contact adhesive from the can on the hull, and from spray cans on the carpet. I'm a fairly tidy worker, but it was messy, with overspray finding it's way onto me, the floor, and anything in the vicinity of the spray area. It had the usual contact adhesive problem that you only got one shot at positioning the carpet piece. And I went through 2 cans of spray with only half the job done. For the second half, I hit on a better system: I thinned the can of F2. This allowed me to spread it on both hull and carpet with a brush, slowed the drying time, and allowed the piece to be peeled and repositioned if not properly placed. This was a huge improvement. The bond is not as strong as using straight F2, but is more than adequate for attaching carpet: 3 years on, nothing has come loose. For thinning I used what was to hand at the time: 2 way paint thinners. The fumes were awful, fortunately I have a good spray mask. I now see that Ados do a Solvent N for thinning and cleaning. In the next life I'll be using that...... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippydiesel Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) Adhesive Velcro allows for as many repositions as you might want. Quick & easy to apply, no fumes/smell. Works a treat. Edited June 3, 2023 by skippydiesel 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Be nice to be able to unclip it and clean it. Moths attack the good stuff (Wool). Nev 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippydiesel Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 1 hour ago, facthunter said: Be nice to be able to unclip it and clean it. Moths attack the good stuff (Wool). Nev Unless its been felted, wool (carpet) will require considerable work to make durable. You can purchase fire rated (marine grade) artificial "felts"/ non directional weave, that can be cut to whatever shape you want, with decent scissors/shears, light weight, cost effective, come in a variety of colours and bonus point, font need the Velcro fluffy side to hook on to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Where your feet rest and rub would certainly need something that wore better. All this makes the plane feel and sound less like a kero tin. Nev 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man emu Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 5 hours ago, skippydiesel said: an purchase fire rated (marine grade) artificial "felts"/ non directional weave, Can you get that in "shag pile". Oh for the return of the Sandman! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 How safe is it to be near that fireproof stuff? I heard it was bad news. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBob Posted June 4, 2023 Author Share Posted June 4, 2023 1 hour ago, old man emu said: Can you get that in "shag pile". Oh for the return of the Sandman! OME I have ridden to 13'000ft over Florida in Mr Douglas, a DC3 with tinted windows, 8 track stereo...and yes, shag-pile carpet (though I can't vouch for the fire rating). Where we all got out.......well, all of us except the pilot. The jump itself was a shambles: we all had green cyalumes taped to our rigs, but nobody had thought to equip the base (centre jumper of the proposed formation) with something of a different colour. So the sky was full of little green lights, all wandering around trying to figure where to aim themselves, before finally heading off for an empty bit of sky. But I wouldn't have missed it for worlds.......) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skippydiesel Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 For/Against My best shot - you may have further observations Wool; For Must be woven into a fabric or felted Can be treated so as to be relativity stiff - make panels Excellent fire resistant properties Excellent sound & temperature insulation Against Expensive and depending on density/thickness, heavy Attaching to structure likely to be problematic, as best to use mechanical (screws/slots/brackets/etc fixings Subject to mold/insect attack Holds moisture for extended period - can get smelly Synthetic For Cheap & light weight Non directional weave and stiffish texture makes for easy panel shaping Easy to glue or Velcro in place Fire rating - fore marine applications - don't know what the implications might be for aircraft use. Wont hold moisture and molds/insects have little interest in taking up a lease Fair sound and temperature insulation Against Possible fire/fume implications Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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