Guest ozzie Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 If this is the same aircraft then this accident may be benificial to keep track of for the reason. They fell out of the aircraft due to a 'mechanical' failure. http://www.recreationalflying.com/forum/aviation-news/70045-small-plane-crashes-lake-isabella-2-dead-turnto23-com.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cscotthendry Posted January 11, 2010 Share Posted January 11, 2010 I watched the video clip and the first words out of the witness' mouth were "He was looping the loop." That, and the fact that they both "fell out" suggests some very careless flying to me. Helmets, harnesses..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Oh dear...! that's crazy!thumb_down Mechanical failure... ?? Unless the seat belts came undone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winsor68 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 I have not read the report but is it possible they are referring to the trike being seperated from the wing? Or were their seatbelts undone? Need more information... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 By the video it looked like the wing was still attached. From what the witness said, he saw the guy fall out of the trike, kicking his legs! with the trike spiraling to the ground He didn't see the girl fall out, and her body was found quite a distance from the other guy. Makes me wonder if it was purposely done, a disgusting thought, but why would two people fall out of a perfectly good plane? One a bit before the other...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winsor68 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 Who knows... I can think of several reasons but it is all just speculation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Crezzi Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 I is it possible they are referring to the trike being seperated from the wing? The wing still appears to be attached in the photos of the wreckage John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winsor68 Posted January 12, 2010 Share Posted January 12, 2010 The wing still appears to be attached in the photos of the wreckageJohn Yeah... I looked at the photos after I posted. It is just so hard to imagine the people seperating from the aircraft when it seemed to have so little damage. Strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluey Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Pilot screwed up If the reports of the pilot attempting a loop are correct then the occupants falling out is probably the result of not strapping in before the flight. I doubt the seatbelts failed. Either way, anyone who attempts a loop in a trike is in serius need of a good wack to the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Crezzi Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 The preliminary NTSB report into the accident can be read here http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/GenPDF.asp?id=WPR10LA104&rpt=p Hopefully it will serve as a warning to any other Darwin Award candidates tempted to try this John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastmeg2 Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Crikey, That report reads like a list of everything we were taught to avoid, if we wanted to live when flying a trike. And not having a pilot certificate!!!:hittinghead: Words fail . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeK Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Definately Darwin Awards stuff! Almost as good as Lawn Chair Larry who got the 1982 prize for drifting into LAX CTA on his balloon assisted chair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracktop Posted January 22, 2010 Share Posted January 22, 2010 Crikey,That report reads like a list of everything we were taught to avoid, if we wanted to live when flying a trike. And not having a pilot certificate!!!:hittinghead: Words fail . . . Unfortunately they don't have a monopoly on stupidity Here is a link to a list of US trike accidents and causes Accidents Important for the quick looker is the comment by the compiler at the bottom "I’ve gone through everyone of these accidents and in every instance but one (the 5/29/09 North Wing accident) the NTSB found the pilot at fault. And even in the North Wing accident I am willing to bet that the pilot either put the wing together incorrectly and/or did a poor preflight, which will make it pilot error too. Some of these accidents had gusty conditions as mitigating circumstances but again, it is the pilot’s job to know the weather." and "• My Safety Advice is don’t be stupid. I am reminded of that old adage, “there are old pilots and bold pilots but no old, bold pilots.” This certainly applies to trikes. We are flying very safe machines provided we fly them within their design parameters and within our skill range. As you bring the pilot and/or aircraft to the edge of their performance capabilities the risks go up. If you are going to “explore the envelop” do it by yourself and not with a passenger. " On another mainly US trike pilot forum there is a list of serious accidents for year 2009 up to August 2009 when posted. There were 12 crashes - that's 1.5 per month! 10 deaths, 6 serious injuries and to quote exert from the compiler "You can see 40% of the accidents were people refusing to take training or some kind of ground loss of trike or going to full power accidents. Surely those accidents are easily avoidable, obviously." the link is below but I think you may need to be a member to fully view trike crash - Forum - Trikepilot Social Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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