flying dog Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 I was reading an article not exactly on human factors I got from somewhere, This term was mentioned. What does it mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ozzie Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Hmmm No fence at the end of the runway? What article is this FD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maj Millard Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 Maybe they mean a downhill landing, on wet grass, with a 15 kt tailwind to keep your **** cool ?.................................Maj... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pudestcon Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 I was reading an article not exactly on human factors I got from somewhere, This term was mentioned.What does it mean? I'll have a go... I reckon it's a landing you must have - in other words, no go around. Maybe deadstick or the landing you only get one go at - like the one at that airport in the Himalayas, what's it called... Lukla? You must land and you can't stop it!! Pud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rocketdriver Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 I was reading an article not exactly on human factors I got from somewhere, This term was mentioned.What does it mean? I Reckon its what happens after the fan stops!:big_grin: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JRMobile Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 in a jab, with no brakes I know, I know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick-p Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 It means that when you are flying the Space Shuttle and you are attempting to land back on Earth basically, you miss and you just then continue for infinity off into outer space. Of course if you hit a lump of rock on your journey then it's the bits of you that are "unstopable" Rick-p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maj Millard Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I used to do 'unstoppable' takeoffs in my Biplane where you would roll down a steep slope with no brakes fitted, and it was aviate, or end up in the gully at the bottom !!...........................................................................Maj... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 There used to be a concept in accident investigation circles where the term " Compulsive landing" was in vogue. This is where the pilot becomes "fixated' on carrying out the landing when a proper assessment of the situation would lead to the conclusion that the chances of achieving a satisfactory outcome are unlikely. It would be a "human factors" consideration. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farri Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 I used to do 'unstoppable' takeoffs in my Biplane where you would roll down a steep slope with no brakes fitted, and it was aviate, or end up in the gully at the bottom !!...........................................................................Maj... Ross, I love it.........Sorts out the men from the boys. Frank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest davidh10 Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Maybe, landing on a one way runway, like YMBT. At Mount Beauty, Landings and takeoffs are permitted on runway 32, although you are below 500' above the houses when you turn onto final and then have to clear the dam wall before reaching the displaced threshold. The reciprocal runway (14) is for landing only due to the mountain you are facing only 0.7 miles beyond the runway, where it is already a couple of hundred feet above runway level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farri Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 David,I`m confused,how would the situation you`ve described be classified as an *Unstopable Landing*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest davidh10 Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 David,I`m confused,how would the situation you`ve described be classified as an *Unstopable Landing*. Not grammatically correct, but you cannot stop performing the landing and go-around... there's a hill in the way. You must continue to land. Don't ya just love English..it's like statistics ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farri Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 ........Ah Haaaaaaah........ Well I sense that in that sense it might make some sense.......Well maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maj Millard Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 David , You are permitted of course below 500 Ft above houses, if you are on a landing approach..........................Maj... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieselten Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 F/A18-F onto a carrier with no hook, 2 failing engines and an unservicable crash-barrier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maj Millard Posted January 22, 2011 Share Posted January 22, 2011 Ooooh, thats nasty Deiselton...............................................................maj... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryon Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 F/A18-F onto a carrier with no hook, 2 failing engines and an unservicable crash-barrier? Thats what ejection seats are for......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieselten Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 Pilot or not, it' still gonna land - badly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 I'd reckon Dieselten's 'unstoppable landing' scenario could perhaps be better described as an 'unscheduled departure' or an 'abbreviated 1/2 circuit'?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pudestcon Posted January 23, 2011 Share Posted January 23, 2011 F/A18-F onto a carrier with no hook, 2 failing engines and an unservicable crash-barrier? I do love it when a plan comes together, the stars all line up, and everything is right with the world:) Pud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flying dog Posted January 23, 2011 Author Share Posted January 23, 2011 Well, blow me down. I have gone back to the document and I can not find that term anywhere. Am I going nuts? (Don't answer that) Sorry folks. Dunno what I read or how I got "unstopable landing" in my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farri Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Hey flying dog, All good anyway,get`s everyone thinking. Frank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgwilson Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 When you fly a hang glider they are all unstoppable except those landing back on top. I had one of those downhill slope problems. The paddock looked flat but wasn't. Couldn't get the B***** down, just snuck over the barbed wire fence at the end & hit the trees at the end of the next paddock. Wounded pride only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ozzie Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 When you fly a hang glider they are all unstoppable except those landing back on top. I had one of those downhill slope problems. The paddock looked flat but wasn't. Couldn't get the B***** down, just snuck over the barbed wire fence at the end & hit the trees at the end of the next paddock. Wounded pride only. Similar experience as yours except ended in great pile of cow crap. "herd" all the jokes from my mates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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