fly_tornado Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 no i got back on saturday, still a lot jet lagged. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maj Millard Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Good to have you back mate.......................................................................Maj... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 good to be back, although I do miss waking to the sound of F16s taking off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryon Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 good to be back, although I do miss waking to the sound of F16s taking off. play nice, remember both boys and girls use this site...mod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suitman Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 Adj. 1. waking - marked by full consciousness or alertness as opposed to ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarly Gnu Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 There has been a big push amongst the left-media in the USA to ban the Reno races or otherwise heavily curtail and regulate them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCBbosq9-RI, I like the common sense this guy comes up with. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 That pin head doesn't show anyone's quotes, I can't believe you can soak up such right wing mush. If anyone is going to shut down the Reno races it will be the insurance companies trying to avoid any future payouts. I doubt the people running insurance companies listen to the left wing media. GG, you should know that the world is run by corporations not by democracies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maj Millard Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 I'm sure the insurance premium is not cheap to cover a large event like that. The insurance company certainly has made a heap of dough over the years covering that event, with few if any claims that I've heard of...That's why they carry insurance in the first place, to guard against excessive cost because of an accident like this..........................................................................Maj... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Last thing I read in the media was a class action being started by a law form to chase the $100M public liability amount that the event has. http://www.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2011109220339 If the race assoc. can't afford the new premium that's the end of the races, its about $350K. If the insurance companies are forced to payout the premium will be proportional to the payout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maj Millard Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 I'm sure the Reno Air Race Assoc (RARA) would have a bit of dough behind them by now, however the $100 mil public liability coverage does sound a little slim in the current situation....................................Maj... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 You're about spot on with all that F_T. I'm not sure what the payouts currently are in the US, but if it had been Australia the judgements would have amounted to roughly $75 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 I was under the impression that the race association is running at break even or at a loss for the last few years. It might have been me arriving and departing via train at most cities but the economic decline in the US was really obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarly Gnu Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 Here are a handful of the articles from various American liberal media outlets calling for / implying the need of a ban on airshows or 'more regulations' (code for the same). I love it how a journalist can "call for something" as if their opinion somehow means anything more than the next persons. Toronto Star Sacramento Bee Huffington Post The Ledger New York Times Yahoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 I thought the Sacramento Bee report was a very good summary of where the situation is right now, including the Reno Air Race Association's frank comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maj Millard Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 The Sacramento Bee is pretty well regarded, and well read in that part of the world, being that Sacramento is the California State capital.....................................................................................Maj... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 The ongoing issue for Reno is convincing the FAA that the heavily modified 68 yr old planes have still got a reasonable degree of safety. Assuming that the air race association can afford the insurance to go racing again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted October 2, 2011 Share Posted October 2, 2011 The ongoing issue for Reno is convincing the FAA that the heavily modified 68 yr old planes have still got a reasonable degree of safety. Assuming that the air race association can afford the insurance to go racing again. You'd have to look hard to find a 68 yo part. This is all about design qualifications and maintenance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 The Trim tab, elevator, horizontal stabiliser set-up it not adequate for the variation in angle of attack changes in that race, with tight turns right on the stall (dynamic) and low angle of attack high speed run situations changing quickly. Pitch control is the most important of all. If you lose it you die. You can do without the other(s) (one at a time).. The P-51 is an old design. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maj Millard Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 The P-51 was a very advanced design for it's day with it's new (then) laminar-flow wing. It was one of the first US designed fighters to be extensivly tested in a wind-tunnel. It was a high-speed wing with good high-speed manouverabilty. When they arrived on the European theater they were a match for anything the Germans had in numbers, including the FW190 and Bf 109 which were the two main threats to watch out for then.....................Maj... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 The Cadillac of the sky - beautiful design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maj Millard Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Walk around a Mustang next time you get the chance, and study it. Like the DC-3..there's not a bad angle, and you just don't get bored with looking at it !.................like a really beautifull woman come to think of it !..................................................:thumb_up: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Finished designs Major Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 The main similarity with a Mustang and a beautiful woman is they can both be extremely dangerous of you don't treat them right. Nev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 Particularly Hosties I presume! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted October 3, 2011 Share Posted October 3, 2011 The gold class umlimited mustangs where significantly faster than the stock mustangs. Stega qualified @ 499 and the slowest mustang was 344. You can't help but wonder how close the unlimiteds are to their airframe limits. Considering that they are spending $8-10,000 a lap with most of that going into the engines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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