mlpinaus Posted February 11, 2008 Share Posted February 11, 2008 Have an EKP4 fitted by Jabiru in a J230C. Bought the Avmap mid last year, fitted late July, worked fine until yesterday! Now all it does is gives a red error message DEVICE not PRESENT Please verify. What the . Has anyone any idea what I can do? I have emailed Avmap, but they are notorious if you search web. regards Marcus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deskpilot Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 G'day Marcus. Sounds like you have an open circuit somewhere. Have you tried the obvious connectors for cleanliness and tightness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlpinaus Posted February 12, 2008 Author Share Posted February 12, 2008 Yes, took out the compact flash, reinserted it several times to mechanicaly clean the thing. (Emailed AVMAP and they are talking to me at least.) Cleaning it made it work erratically for a while:confused:. Tried a little switch cleaner on the contacts of the CF. Now it does not work at all. :;)2: Now in the process of buying some CF memory and a CF reader with the thought of copying the CF in the AVMAP then updating the software and map via the web. Plan B is to spend $ 2200 on a new AVMAP before NATFLY:angry:. Italian and electric are not words to be used lightly together. 5083 is rather sad right now, dash all loose and a big hole where the AVMAP was regards Marcus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deskpilot Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 If, by disturbing the connectors it came back to life, albeit erratically, it still seems to me to be in that local area. Are all leads properly secured to prevent vibrational damaged? Can you carry out any point to point continuity checks? Don't spend big bucks until all other possible checks have been exhausted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlpinaus Posted February 12, 2008 Author Share Posted February 12, 2008 I took the AVMAP out of 24 5083 and replaced the DC line in with a set of charged NiMh batteries, as you can. Thing would boot up occasionaly. :) Cleaned the CF socket with Electrolube switch cleaner and now it won't even do that.:yuk: Really only leaves the AVMAP or its associated CF. Just ordered a CF reader and a virgin CF. Will try and read the CMAP one that came with the AVMAP. Will try and update map and software from web site. Will still try a waranty claim , but NATFLY is end March regards Marcus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Marcus Sounds like you are getting into more strife than Speed Gordon. Have you spoken with the guys at EDMO in South Ozz, who import the units here? I found them very helpful, their service was terrific and they know the product well. Hope this helps. Geoff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlpinaus Posted February 12, 2008 Author Share Posted February 12, 2008 Thanks Captain. Ian ;), from whom I purchased the AVMAP, has already spoken to EDMO. They both advise me to contact AVMAP as the thing is under warranty which I have done. NATFLY is late March. Time enough. regards Marcus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlpinaus Posted February 16, 2008 Author Share Posted February 16, 2008 FIXED, at least for now... Thanks Deskpilot and Captain on this site, and Ian who I pm'd and spoke to. AVMAP, who have a poor internet "rating" were actually very helpful via email indeed. ;) all of you. Reading the CF content into a PC, then loading it back into another new CF did the trick. The only thing is, its not clear why. :;)5: I am an electronic engineer and Italian and electronic don't go well together in the same sentence. Remember Marconi you counter.... regards Marcus.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pelorus32 Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 GPS Units appear to be prone to problems with cards. The Navman marine units will hang and crash and hang when they don't like the C-Map cards. Replace the cards with a new card and the unit works fine. I remember one horrible night in Bass Strait hove to in a SE gale. We were trying to dodge a total of 7 ships, all within a quarter of a mile CPA - unable to get out of their road - and the GPS was crashing and hanging. We had to restart it each time a ship asked for our position on the VHF!! It was only many weeks later that we finally tracked down the problem to the C-Map card. It appears that the error handling around reading the media is bad. Regards Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastmeg2 Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 "Italian and electronic don't go well together in the same sentence." Having been a motorcyclist I recall being rather concerned upon discovering that Ducati make the alternators/generators for Rotax aero engines 582 & 912 that I'm aware of. However, as I say to people about my motorcycling, "I've been lucky so far". No problems with those Ducati parts on the Rotax engines, yet. To be fair to Ducati, their more recent products seem to have improved electrically. Cheers, Glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlpinaus Posted February 18, 2008 Author Share Posted February 18, 2008 Quality of CF cards Spoke to my mate on Sunday. He is a tech with one of the exploration companies, and thus close to God. His comment was that TomTom (the gps crowd) warn that not all CF cards are fast enough for their applications. They say SANDISK are OK. Taiwan? :ah_oh:I was brought up in a world where Philps NV. ruled. Still the whole experience confirms the rule paper maps first , weather, paper flight plan then, compass etc backed up with a gps that can fail, just like that.:confused: The funny thing was that we were attending a local Alfa Romeo Owners Club run at the time. Talk about Italian and electrics! Any how, off we go to Narromine in 5083!:;)3: regards Marcus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushpilot Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 So - how about Garmin 296 and Lowrance 2000C? Does anyone know the problem rate with them? I am interested in Lowrance, but seems Jab only do Garmin 296 in-dash installs; cutout is standard on their panels.. Cheers Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 i know of several people that have got rid of the Lowrance for various reasons. Jab do the Avmap but i presume then that jab only offer the Avmap with certain panels but it is expensive for the big screen compared to the cheaper 296 with the smaller screen. Ian McPherson here in the forums had 2 Lowrance's (plane and car) and got rid of them for the Avmap in his Tecnam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlpinaus Posted February 19, 2008 Author Share Posted February 19, 2008 Yeah, the electric everything panel from Jab is the Avmap. The only thing I would change on 5083 is to get the larger Dynon EMS screen, but you can split the EFIS screen on the left (see my avatar) to include the EMS screen as well. Works OK. :) Bloke I rent the hangar from had a Garmin fail (296 I think), replaced under warranty. Its something they do. :confused: regards Marcus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlpinaus Posted April 2, 2008 Author Share Posted April 2, 2008 Device Not present..... Further to the apparent cure... Noticed finally that no airfields other than my past waypoints and tracks from earlier trips were in the data base. Particularly the restricted zone near YMBD was not there ...., but the Terrain Alert stuff was all working . So I phoned EDMO, whose phones were on the blink.. Telstra . EDMO were really good. Gave me a replacement CF card. Works properly now :big_grin:. Seems to have a lot airfields in that weren't there before Bought a used Garmin 96 with the latest Jeppersen maps on fleabay for $250, powered by drycells.., as a backup and flew 5083 off to Natfly with a very experienced navigator beside me, doing it all the proper way as a constant cross check. The moving map on the AVMAP was really good flying back from NATFLY, dodging the rain showers. After all, Jab props dissolve in the rain, don't they ? For now...Closed.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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