onetrack Posted June 27 Posted June 27 And you said this, on Page One? ..... QUOTE: "The schools I have used have never supplied any t and c,s." So what is that on the bottom of the form you signed? 😄
BrendAn Posted June 27 Author Posted June 27 21 minutes ago, onetrack said: And you said this, on Page One? ..... QUOTE: "The schools I have used have never supplied any t and c,s." So what is that on the bottom of the form you signed? 😄 Yes, I admit I never took much notice before. 2
Moneybox Posted Saturday at 03:25 AM Posted Saturday at 03:25 AM On 13/06/2025 at 8:57 AM, spacesailor said: The new students, will have to do what the wealthy have always done !. Divest all personal assets . So they can become ' bankrupt ' . Then they can pay ' five cents on the dollar ' . Like one of my grandsons !, owns nothing , lives at his parents , And can't be bothered to sign on the dole . He has his trade certificate, but was threatened with court action when his Labourer dropped something, causing damage somewhere. Never worked a day since . what could they get out of him . spacesailor Yes, parents have a lot to answer for. 1
Moneybox Posted Saturday at 03:32 AM Posted Saturday at 03:32 AM On 13/06/2025 at 2:41 PM, skippydiesel said: I have had a further thought or two about the word Command. In General It is possible to be In Command of a vessel/aircraft/ machine however you can not Command (verb) a non sentient object ie you can not Command a machine, your utterances will have no disenable effect. Command infers authority to control humans or other beings eg a working dog, by the use of words (verbal or writen). In Aviation A Pilot In Command (PIC) implies a great deal more than mechanical control (as in manipulate the machine so as to achieve flight). The PIC has legal standing & responsibility, must by convention & I suggest, law, be licenced ie not a student . It is tempting to think of a solo (unlicensed/student) pilot as PIC, as they are the only person on board, so must if circumstances (safety of aircraft) dictate, make authoritative decisions. However this is to ignore the role of the students Instructor, who is in fact the only Commander (PIC) in this relationship/situation. Note; The Instructor need not be in the aircraft to maintain this relationship. By law & convention, there can not be two PICs for the same aircraft/time, ergo the student can never be PIC. CASA/RAA/FAAA and any other authority that uses the words Pilot In Command for an unlicensed pilot, are simple incorrect, inconsistent with other aviation rules, regulations & custom. Their intentions may be known/understood, even supported however the terminology does not accurately reflect the situation, that the student is under the Command of the Instructor. Just because a bureaucracy (staffed by fallible humans) draws up a regulation, this does not mean it is necessarily worded well (grey areas), correct (wrong) or consistent with (supports/contradicts) other regulations. Those who blindly refer to/quote the regulations, without critical thought, undermine democracy and ultimately the rule of law.😈 From Google : dominate (a strategic position) from a superior height. I think that's what they mean 🤣 1 1
skippydiesel Posted Sunday at 04:49 AM Posted Sunday at 04:49 AM On 19/07/2025 at 1:32 PM, Moneybox said: From Google : dominate (a strategic position) from a superior height. I think that's what they mean 🤣 A very diffrent context. Like so much in English - context is everything. 😈
facthunter Posted Sunday at 05:52 AM Posted Sunday at 05:52 AM I can't see how "In Command" of an aeroplane is so hard to understand. The buck stops with YOU. Nev 1 2
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