Garfly

That'd be Helios Airways Flt 522.

To which we could add the case of Bernard Collaery ... Government successfully blocks Bernard Collaery from obtaining documents on legality of spy mission | Witness K case | The Guardian WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM Judge says legality of intelligence operation irrelevant to charge of disclosure of classified information Until finally ... Bernard Collaery’s leaking charges over East Timor operation dropped on Mark Dreyfus’ orders WWW.SMH.COM.AU The former ACT attorney-general was due to finally face trial on October 24 after years of delays before the attorney-general intervened.

Red, it's not like that "point" of yours was ever at issue ... there was a distinction involved, but let it pass.

Yes, and interestingly, Perdue (in the video) challenges the NTSB's accident analysis on that very distinction (regarding the Cessna crash) .

Red, SP isn't kidding; his comment is a lot more specific than "Boeing QA" in general. The Plane That Crashed Yesterday Was the Same One a Dead Boeing Whistleblower Warned About GIZMODO.COM Critics of Boeing have long expressed criticisms of the 787 Dreamliner and the company's standards.

Light plane crash lands in field 7NEWS.COM.AU Paramedics rushed to the scene and assessed one person.

Midair collision involving Jabiru J430, VH-EDJ, and Piper PA-25-235, VH-SPA, Caboolture Airfield, Queensland, on 28 July 2023 | ATSB WWW.ATSB.GOV.AU

Can't take a joke?

Yes, in a way. But we're really only stating the bleedin' obvious ... (Or, as our danny_galaga offered on the subject ... ;- )

That's the point. It's prevented from happening by nature knowing it takes all kinds to make a world.

And if everyone in the tribe is the same, the tribe ends.

I wouldn't have thought so. Nature knows it takes all kinds to make a world.

These panning shots from the hill (posted on YouTube) show the scale of the event.

Yes, but let's not forget the true sports people (the non-egomaniacs) who do the difficult for the personal challenge of it. We don't have to be grumpy about them all.

Yep, they really do put the 'sport' into Sport Flying. Meaning they've likely thought through all those risks and many more besides, beyond our ken.

It's even a team sport ;- )

The ATSB report (below) of an Airprox near Port Augusta a few years back makes for sobering reading on this topic, especially given the REPCON (confidential report) about "Frequency Congestion" in that area sent to CASA less than a year prior. Near collision, BAE Systems Avro RJ100 and Ayres S2R, Port Augusta, South Australia, on 26 May 2021 | ATSB WWW.ATSB.GOV.AU Frequency congestion | ATSB WWW.ATSB.GOV.AU

Too right, Stude, the Scone one might be this fella: SIAI MARCHETTI SM1019 | Pay's Air Service PAYSAIRSERVICE.COM.AU SIAI MARCHETTI SM1019 SIAI Marchetti SM1019 SM1019 Pays Air Services imported 8 SIAI Marchetti aircraft into Australia in the early 2000’s with most finding new homes in Australia. VH-PAI was shipped...

It's not like you to be so dismissive of Human Factors. I am not, at all, and remain wary of the human I'm responsible for up there. (Some would say for good reason ;- ) Heck, once, not so long ago, I started going for flaps down when I wanted flaps up. So I'm a bit interested. Anyway, the article above is, I'd say, a fair summary of the official AAIB Bulletin, which is linked here: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/681b144c386c17c856f17359/Boeing_777-236_G-VIIT_05-25.pdf And, for anyone who thinks it might be relevant to them, a few key excerpts: "At the time of the incident, the co-pilot had 6,156 hours total flying time, with 2,700 hours on type, and 44 hours in the last 28 days" "The report ... discusses the industry-wide challenge of preventing action slips." "An action slip occurs when an action is not performed as intended, arising in routine or highly learned motor action sequences . The operator ... found that absence of cognitive thought and speed of execution commonly featured during action slips, such as flap and landing gear mis-selections." "The operator described taking a cautious approach to publicising specific incidents to its crew, given industry experience suggests the act of discussing mis-selections might actually prime crew towards, rather than against, making them. It has included ‘mis-selections’ in a new ‘Safety topic’ section of its pre-flight briefing material for crew, and promoted the human factors topic of ‘Focus’ in its recurrent simulator training package."