Garfly

18 minutes ago, facthunter said:

The attempts at spin recovery in that vid didn't demonstrate much competence. 

And yet, it seems he was an experienced company test pilot. 

This time an AOPA video with CFI Alyssa Cobb:

On 25/06/2023 at 5:41 PM, facthunter said:

 It was a "Partial" engine failure also. The general advice is in those circumstances don't TRUST the motor to keep going as part of your planning decision.  Nev

This is an interesting case in point.

We get to ride along as the pilot talks herself through the final 10 minutes of the flight; her dawning realisation that 

given the J4 engine's poor performance (turns out to be a stuck-valve) she's not gonna make it to the nearest airstrip.

I think I've seen some consumer emergency start packs designed to plug into a car's cigar lighter socket.

That seems a bit dodgy, no?

On 23/06/2023 at 9:34 PM, spacesailor said:

When I started ... Most aircraft could be ' hand- started '  

This wasn't you, was it Spacey?

8 minutes ago, Marty_d said:

I guess if they're a friend, you give them a chute too... if they're a REAL friend, you actually push them out first!

True! 

But then, if you're in a spin (or you have a lot of friends) you might have your work cut out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTJEnUr-jFU

In which case, it might be back to the BRS idea    ;- )

15 minutes ago, Marty_d said:

... sheer desperation would add plenty of incentive to exit the aircraft if required. 

Saying 'Seeya!' to your pax [and erstwhile friend] might be an awkward moment.       ;- )

On 25/06/2023 at 3:44 PM, Jabiru7252 said:

... most folks would remain in their seats rather than jump from a plane with a parachute. I would agree

49 minutes ago, RFguy said:

The Skyecho is not a high accuracy device.  That's the problem. 

I am surprised that SkyEchoes are even permitted given they can transmit bogus positions.

 

WHAT THAT DISCUSSION you point to is about- Is the question of whether a TSO Transponder  can be substituted by a Skyecho - and the answer is NO.
 

The TSO transponder is still the gold standard, and required for working with industry facilities like TCAS etc.  SKyecho, being a non ship power item, with a variable fix performance is not an acceptable substitute.

Yeah, that's what I thought.  

That email exchange was not about whether a SkyEcho2 was a substitute for a TSO'd transponder, per se.  Clearly not the case.

It was about trying to get clarity on the meaning of the following limited exception:

Thus the issue came down to the definition of "integrated TABS devices" and it turns out that I had misread part of the CASA docs in that regard.

That is what Matt from RAAus corrected me on.  But even in that exchange we did canvass the related issue of whether IFR cockpits had to have ADSB-IN CDTI (cockpit display of traffic information) which, I believe, they (still) don't and whether ATC filters out EC devices, which, I gather, they don't anymore, necessarily.  Those are what seemed to be the sticking points for ECs in E, rather than any perceived inadequacy of the SE2 to do its job as advertised.

However, I thought maybe things had moved on when you were suggesting that a SE2 might be okay as a 'tail-light' in Class E. 

(I think I might have missed your drift  ;- )

Anyway,  seems we all agree that the great unwashed need to stay well clear of the upper E classes unless carrying a transponder that will definitely trigger TCAS and definitely be seen by ATC.   At least until ADSB-IN CDTI is mandated for all IFR flights (as is already the case for ADSB-OUT).

51 minutes ago, facthunter said:

" I read "Somewhere" is not the best source either. There HAS to be the acceptance of a pilot making the decision. It's there to make and in this instance if the wing hadn't hit a tree, it would have been a better outcome and we wouldn't be having this discussion. The Plane WILL be damaged even in a normal chute descent.   YOU also cannot control exactly where you will land. I wouldn't like to be hung up 150 ft in a tall tree  Nev

Who is saying "I read Somewhere"?  

But for sure, anyone who does fly with a BRS has had to think through that question: under which circumstances would I pull?

(And that includes all ultralight pilots in countries where BRS is mandated).

Nobody is not accepting that a pilot must make the decision based on a multiple contingencies. Not even Cirrus.

Nobody is saying that the particular facts of this incident, on their face, invalidate anyone's pre-existing position regarding airframe parachutes, in general.

This is sounding like deja vu all over again.

14 minutes ago, skippydiesel said:

True its the manufacturers choice/marketing point BUT their realy was no "dilemma" for the pilot.,  he chose (badly) to bypass, likely safe, landing options in favour of getting back to the aircrafts maintenance field/facility

You seem determined, Skip, to steer clear of any suggestion that one of the morals of this story might be "If you've got one, it might be better to use it". 

There's nothing in the story that suggests that if you don't have one, and you could have one, that you should have one.

3 minutes ago, Jabiru7252 said:

I read somewhere many years ago that most folks would remain in their seats rather than jump from a plane with a parachute. I would agree, especially if the plane is setup in a quiet glide while the pilot looks for a place to land. Maybe if the wings were on fire the passengers would rather jump.

Who's talking about jumping?

16 minutes ago, Bruce Tuncks said:

AND one of the most horrifying vids I have ever seen is the one where a brs deployed on take-off by accident. The plane did a "figure 9" and hit so hard that those on board were killed.

And don't get me started on the dangers of airbags.

2 minutes ago, skippydiesel said:

This is a clear case of pilot error and has little if anything to do with the desirability or not of fitting a BRS .

No, of course not.  Anyway, in a Cirrus you don't really have that choice.

What the story has to do with, among other things, is if you have one do you pull the handle or go for the field.

That dilemma is a little bit like whether to install or not ... except that decision time is now.   🙂

1 hour ago, RFguy said:

SO

Reading through the rules again, there isnt any requirement for TSO grade ADS-B OUT  in Class E airspace. So SkyEcho is fine as a 'tail light' .

There is , as I interpret it, a requirement for at least Class C transponder (transmits altitude).  Class E is buzzing with IFR flights. You are expected to maintain your altitude like a tiger. (and observe Axxx / FL region changes of course) , keep an eagle ear on the radio,  and steer clear of IFR routes and it is polite to advise center of your intentions if no flight plan or otherwise.  (AIP 3.2)
Be sure to understand how the transition layer varies with area QNH (CASR Part91 MOS 11.02)
-glen

Glen, are you're saying that you think the clarification I got from RAAus (as quoted above - and, in more detail, below) is wrong - have things changed?:

This is just a single - very nicely done - shot of a good looking RV-7A landing (leaving only light work for the little wheel).

54 minutes ago, Old Koreelah said:

Thanks Garfly, forgot to add that I’m RAA and have to stay out of controlled airspace and also that I long ago let my ASIC lapse due to lack of use.

Yeah, apart from the ASIC issue, as far as I know, you can still access YTWB remaining OCTA, and avoiding the Military Romeo's most of the time.

Maybe some locals could fill us in on that.  I'd be interested anyway.

36 minutes ago, Old Koreelah said:

A long shot: does anyone know a good place near Toowoomba to land and park my 19-reg for the weekend of July 14-15? 
Meeting up with old mates in Toowoomba before going to the Superbikes in Warwick.

Wouldn't YTWB be able to accommodate you?  Is it because it's a security controlled joint? Or your reluctance to get stuck there by pop-up PRDs?

Maybe parking up at Warwick, to start with, and getting old TWB mate to come get you is the way to go. ;- )  Anyway, sounds like a nice trip.

On 21/02/2023 at 10:54 AM, red750 said:

A privately owned Boeing 747 jumbo jet is being sold for scrap after just 30 hours in the air over a total of 16 flights.

Makes me feel a bit better about leaving the 'Ranger alone in the hangar for months on end.

22 minutes ago, Ian said:

I suspect it's because most older people who own planes uses apple devices.

LOL ...  Yeah, well I guess times have moved on.

(Anyway,  jeans, sneakers and T's are still the go  ;- )

Glen did you fly direct YCWR - YMND on this trip?

And the northerly route you say you'd take if there was significant cloud ... do you mean like via Mudgee and Warkworth?

Would you say the worst of the tiger country was pretty much the area north east of Bathurst and south west of Cessnock?

They say that there are times when the Hunter Valley can get socked in for weeks with cloud sitting on the ranges to the north, south and west - even the hills to the east.

I remember Old Koreelah telling us here once, that his aero club at Quirindi (on the plains north-west of Scone) offered basic accommodation to encourage visiting pilots bound for the Hunter to stay and wait it out if cumulo granitus was festooning the Liverpool Range.

41 minutes ago, Markdun said:

Why didn’t you go into class E, as you do have the SE2?

Jim Tweto, bush pilot of ‘Flying Wild Alaska,’ dies in plane crash - The Washington Post

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Jim Tweto, star of the Discovery Channel's "Flying Wild Alaska," has died in a plane crash, along with his passenger, Idaho outdoor guide Shane Reynolds.

In this clip from "Flying Wild Alaska"  Jim Tweeto bemoans the high fatal accident numbers in Alaskan flying - back then.

(And he suffers a broken rudder on take off.)

Meanwhile, back at Amberley:

This is another oddity from the airline archive.   Alistair Cooke, of all people, is our presenter for this TV film about the latest in air safety procedures.

The  'talk 'em down the glideslope' ILS procedure at Idlewild is interesting to see.

And another film from the same time and place ... but quite a different style.