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1 hour ago, facthunter said:

 Like been to Lake Gairdner or such or lived on a salt lake or Boat' Had to keep your fishing gear or inboard engine working? . Nev

What do you think we do in the transport industry where we have to build all sorts of body surfaces for all applications including corrosives and explosives but that’s got nothing to do with a successful forced landing and fly off.

23 minutes ago, facthunter said:

 Have you ever operated near salt?.

What's this nonsense?

1 hour ago, facthunter said:

And I don't need your help in telling me what I should and should not post here. Corrosion is a real  problem in sheet  metal aircraft particularly those which aren't primed at manufacture and It's VERY likely that I've seen more with REPAIRED . corrosion in them than you Have. YOU don't HAVE to read my posts  do  you?  Nev

No I mostly don't but got confused about how it could have been a corroded wreck never to fly again when the only photos shows pretty much wet tyres and we don't know whether there was water there when it landed, because when I pulled the tide data there's along priod of dry beach.

This is beginning to rival Ripleys Believe it or not.

A thread about a "crash" by a GA aircraft in an RA Forum; a forced landing on a beach; a photo of the tide coming in showing water around the wheels; reasons the aircraft is now stuffed etc; how your car can be rusted out too.

The Cherokee Six is an ideal Country/Outback Aircraft.

Around 2012 I saw one stripped down for a complete corrosion inspection/replacement. The guy had bought the aircraft  with high level radio equipment for $15,000 and the corrosion replacement cost him $16,000 at a tiome people were buying Jabs for about $60,000.

I'd suggest the owner will work it all out without our help.

17 minutes ago, Carbon Canary said:

I believe one of the issues is that 3G operates at 700mhz and 4G operates at 850mhz. 4G has approx a 10 fold performance gain, but coverage may not penetrate as far in the 3G areas it replaces…..but I’m no expert in these matters.

 

As others have mentioned, generally ANY coverage is poor once you leave populated areas anyhow.  Maybe Starlink is the answer.

Sounds about right. 4g offsets this with more towers. Cross country aircraft have HF for outback operation.

5 hours ago, onetrack said:

You can get up to 8M tide variations in Darwin, but the mean neap tidal range is 1.9M, and spring tides have a range variation of up to 5.5M. Casuarina Beach is very flat, and I'd be surprised if the aircraft didn't get some level of "wet feet".

Casuarina Beach, NT Tides:

11:15 am 1.34 metres

5: 28 pm: 6.62 metres              = 5.28 metres higher

On "very flat" ground a 5.28 metre difference = a considerable distance of retreat at low tide and some time before 11:15 to make a forced landing and some time after 11:15 to get out of there before the groundwater turned the sand to quicksand and the water submerged to whole aircraft.

We know the aircraft wasn't submerged. Anyone needing to know if it's going to fall apart from corrosion just needs to find out the landing and take off times and do the maths.

3 hours ago, Jabiru7252 said:

This link shows a helicopter that could be trying to land at a pub. Anybody know what went on?

 

https://www.9news.com.au/national/helicopter-hovers-near-power-lines-victory-hotel-near-adelaide-south-australia/d4097c97-016e-44f9-bc5c-e72d4a73e2d2

 

 

Probably a druggie sending a message to his wife's boyfriend?

19 minutes ago, jackc said:

Coverage maps tell lies……the truth lies in actual field testing with a consumers phone. 

You'd hope they would wash the maps with a topograpical map based on the towers, but a lot of people tell lies these days.

32 minutes ago, facthunter said:

 The sea water won't do it much good. They are a bit Notorious for Wing corrosion at the rear spar anyhow.  Good effort though.  Nev

It may have landed to dry sands and taken off on dry sands depending on the tides in that location.

5 hours ago, Marty_d said:

It's not a matter of having a phone that can only do 3g, in many areas of Australia you can only GET 3g service.  No matter if your phone is 4g or even 5g.

We did address that related to the 3/4/5G map showing remote parts of NSW, SA, NT above and the very few 3G towers left to replace there to match all existing areas on the map. Note that there is more area there that has no 3/4/5G coverage and  they use different methods of communication.

If you want to satisfy yourself, you can get similar coverage maps for the whole of Australia.

5 minutes ago, skippydiesel said:

Modified  (more clearance) header seems to be performing as intended  - did a little over an hour yesterday - all good!

There you are, a design genius!

28 minutes ago, spacesailor said:

They ' possibly ' can be upgraded .

But they want your money.  They can & do sell refurbished items overseas .

For the lower technology country's. 

Then those country's will be cut off & upgraded later.

spacesailor

For people on a flying forum, I'm surprised anyone is still on 3G.

I bought a 4g Mobile phone for bore camera and engine work and it cost me a whole $45.00, and you can get an unlimited data plan to access the net from Optus for about $90 per month.

3 hours ago, skippydiesel said:

For the Australian sun it's hard to go past a high wing. 

That's if you're comparing it with a bubble canopy.

Plenty available with a roof, plenty with air conditioning and cross country instruments.

1 hour ago, gareth lacey said:

I am a bit of a loner myself on my build but do ask a lot questions of others if i dont know also did a lot of research on this build i prefer to work alone but  i do have experienced people to ask (builders of homebuilt) i come from a background in fabrication and sheetmetal so can and have applied my experience to my build  i am about to fabricate my exhaust headers pipes for my engine

Skippy's got current experience with that.

On 19/03/2024 at 7:29 PM, BrendAn said:

my dream aircraft. one day.    i like your aussie caravan in the background.

Good spot, but there are Jayco companies in Canada, the US, and Australia.

I'm currently studying the specifications for a power demand module.

The specifications vary slightly but the advertising's great.

2 hours ago, Garfly said:

Turbs, I really don't understand your almost religious devotion to the text of that particular PPL O&P module.  

 

Sure, it's good (and something like it is necessary) but just 'doing' a module - once - doesn't guarantee much in the real world.

 

(As you point out, yourself, vis-a-vis the OP video).

 

Anyway, how can 'picking and plucking' (aka, continuing study and consolidation of knowledge) lead to aircraft flying at different heights in the circuit?  Makes no sense. 

Thanks, you made my point beautifully.

For those doing cross country flying, I'd recommend cooling down and waiting for the PPL Module where you'll be taught sequence by sequence to do it correctly rather than the picking and plucking we've been reading among which, if I remember correctly was a great way to have two lots of aircaft flying the circuit at different heights.

In the P&O module you'll get exercises in the step by step calculations that come together to become your flight plan (and yes I know that's not the formal flight plan we used to submit to DCA, CAA etc), and most impirtantly you'll be fluent enough to replan in the air for safe transit and landing at an alternate field if the weather ahead of you closes in. etc.

26 minutes ago, gareth lacey said:

During my build i sourced parts from us but the freight was sometimes twice as cost of part recently purchased a psru freight was 150 more than cost of part i have purchased from czech and ukraine freight was very modest

The secret is, like Australia, doing the work of researching the market. I'll admit it can be a long haul, but you'll be able to find suppliers who sell below full retain and don't mess around with price and quality. Those are gold.

What’s wrong with buying from the US when they have high volume fresh stock, lower pricing, faster delivery.

......he'd forgotten his start checks and needed to activate the magnetos which, without thinking, he now did.

While SYB can be your friend, it can also be your worst nightmare, and now there was a belch of smoke and an explosion rivalling Krakatoa.

The Bushcaddy jumped off the ground and a wheel came down on Cappy's left toe pinning him behind the exhaust pipes from which was emerging a Wall of Flame; the engine caught and fanned the flames.

Cappy's classic WW2 sunglasses saved his eyes, but would never look smart again and his WW2 flying suit was emitting enough carbon the attract the EPA.

Luckily he'd though to lock the brakes on, but ........................

8 hours ago, onetrack said:

I'm surprised they managed a satisfactory landing, the tidal flat is pretty soft clayey sand, and any incoming tide would be a worry, as Darwins tides are pretty big.

The Cherokee Six has fixed undercarriage built like a tank, I've been in one that made a routine landing in scrub out the back of Broken Hill, knocking down small saplings and with an emu trying to outpace us.

The mud would just be like an arrestor cable.

Could have been finger trouble on the selector also.

5 hours ago, jackc said:

I have no sympathy for Council  and State Water Supply SCADA systems that once used dedicated UHF commercial radio links and smart engineers changed over to 3rd party mobile phone systems to carry the system data.  I always said, never put your data bearers in the hands of a third party.  
Every system I designed or commissioned used dedicated radio links that were owner maintained, by their nominated equipment supplier.

Seems the wheel has turned now, with 3G disappearing.  I will watch and…….wait. 

NRLs are switchable 3G/4G/5G, ethernet, LoRan, Inmarsat.

At Wilcannia 3 am this morning the Darling water level was 1.19m and flow rate 1025 ml/day

At Binnowie, Ward River, Warrego Basin in Central Queensland at 3 am this morning the water level is 1.903 m. flow 1,936 Ml/day.

We can compare them after 3 G ceases and see what happens.

8 hours ago, Freizeitpilot said:

In some semi-remote areas, it’s 3G or nothing.

 

 

That's not a terribly persuasive argument; not a lot of towers required for a much better service.

Is anyone on 3G these days?

He would join anyone.

Who could forget him that year when it rained and we were all covered in mud, and the chicks had mudsliding contests. There he was covered in mud along with Peter, Paul and Mary, his guitar strings dripping with mud, singing Mary's part in the iconic "Blow'n in the Wind" because Mary had stripped off and run over to the mudslide. Most of the crowd missed it because they were at the mudslide, but Turbo taped it and you can hear Wuntey abd the boys in what many people say was the best version, on Spotify today.

When the time came to fold up the seat on the Bushcaddy it was always hard to start and sometimes it took.............................