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Is wind direction available to ATC along the flight paths? If so ,could the vulnerable aircraft be positioned upwind slightly of the 380?

Back to the original topic. Looks like back in 2009 CASA closed the 750kg project citing not safety concerns , but possible concerns from other sectors of aviation? WTF like who? ? They said more consultation needed. Project CS 06/01 - Increase of the MTOW for Aircraft Operating Under CAO 95.55 Operations | Civil Aviation Safety Authority Looks like a review was agreed upon after part 103 is introduced. Which according to the timeline link below will be March 2018. However "Making" the regulation starts March 2017. Regulatory timeline 2016 | Civil Aviation Safety Authority

Recreational Pilots Licence See this PDF from CASA RPL Don't confuse RPL with RPC [Recreational Pilots Certificate]

Here you go Jaba : From section 3.3 RAA T M 2.2 Special Certificates of Airworthiness can only be issued by a CASA Authorised Person, or CASA. No RAAus maintenance authority holder is eligible to issue such certificates unless they hold a CASA Instrument of Appointment to issue such certificates. and Section 3.4 2.2 Experimental Certificates can only be issued by a CASA Authorised Person, or CASA. No RAAus maintenance authority holder is eligible to issue such certificates unless they hold a CASA Instrument of Appointment to issue such certificates I'm Sure there are RAA members who are Aurthorised Persons just as the SAAA would have members who are AP. Their memberships appear to be irrelevant to the issuing of the C of A. ie RAA member AP can issue certificate for GA experimental and LSA and ELSA and vise -versa

RGMWA Thanks for the clarification re who can sign for the GA maintenance. L1 is authority to sign for maintenance on ones Own aircraft. Someone else can be an L1 and do maintenance on your AC but the sign off must be the L1 owners or L2. This means L1 cant sign off for other aircraft owners maintenance except for duplicate inspections From RAA Tech manual; Level One (L1): Pilot Certificate holders. Perform and record maintenance activities carried out only on their own aircraft which are not used for hire and/or flying training. Completion of a Level 1 training course is required.

If I built a plane using the 51% rule, then sell and buy a factory built. Do I still need to do the L1 course? Yes . You need to do a L1 test even with a 51% aircraft you built. As of 1/2/17 anybody signing a maintenance log for maintenance other than line maintenance must have L1 Remembering that the tech manual was updated 4 August last year From the RAA Tech manual: SECTION 11.1 MAINTENANCE POLICY Under a grandfather clause all members who are maintaining their own RAAus registered aircraft have until 01/02/2017 to complete the L1 maintenance authority assessment. After 01/02/2017 members who have not completed the L1 assessment cannot continue to sign for maintenance performed on their own aircraft. (Does not apply for members completing line maintenance only)

I'm just happy to be learning all this now before I purchase a kit or aircraft. Lets see if I can summarise the system/process. Only a CASA Authorised Person [AP]can issue a Special or Experimental Certificate of Airworthiness for both GA and RAA aircraft . The same AP decides if you have completed 51% of the build.You need to prove this 51%using a builders log and possibly checklist sheets. If it is a Kit and on the FAA approved 51% kits list then the checklist is probably not necessary , just use a builders log , with photos dates etc. If registering GA Experimental you can then perform maintenance on your 51% aircraft after also completing a maintenance course. If registering RAA you can perform and sign for maintenance on your aircraft after completing the L1 maintenance Test online. If purchasing a GA experimental that someone else built , then you cant do maintenance on the aircraft [ however there is a list of acceptable maintenance tasks you can do] If purchasing a RAA aircraft that someone else built ,you can perform and sign for maintenance on the AC after obtaining your L1 after a passing the online test.[ hire and flight school needs L2 ] If you do not get a L1 then your pilots certificate allows Line Maintenance [ things like pre flight inspections and some maintenance like oil change , etc] If you want to do a weight and balance on your RAA aircraft you need to have successfully completed the RAA online weight and balance course to become a qualified weigher. I hope I have that all correct !?

Thanks . For those that missed it. https://members.raa.asn.au/storage/08082014-duplicate-inspection-an.pdf from the AN Background: The RAAus Technical Manual states that if any maintenance is carried out on primary flight control systems involving disconnection, adjustment or modification, a duplicate inspection of primary flight control systems or items is mandatory before the aircraft is used They failed to point out the exceptions to the application as I posted above: It really needs to be clarified if this AN also affects wing folding aircraft etc after the first duplicate inspection is complete. ie on subsequent re- assembly

Can you post a copy please . I cant find it

The Last revision of the tech manual was August 4 2016 ........ 7.5 months ago I suppose that trumps the previous AN ?

For those that are struggling with the Legalese speak above it works like this. If your aircraft normally and routinely requires assembly before flight then put a line through road or other transport [c] period of disassembly It will then just read 1 APPLICABILITY 1.1 This section applies to all aircraft that have been re-assembled after: (a) purchase from new (including LSA and factory built meaning all the stuff at 12.2.2 PRIVATELY OPERATED AIRCRAFT is only applicable to [a] all aircraft that have been re-assembled after purchase from new clear as mud?

If your aircraft normally and routinely has some degree of assembly prior to daily flying then you are exempt from Section 12.2.2 due to being not Applicable. For example. you trailer your Jabiru J230 to the airfield to attach the wings and flight test. you need a duplicate inspection as set out below as jabiru is not normally and routinely reassembled before flight. Your kitfox ss7 however is normally reassembled before flight after trailering to airport so is exempt from the duplicate inspection rule. Note that if your brand new Kitfox is trailered to the airport you will need the duplicate check Not the best bit of writing in the manual. SECTION 12.2 INSPECTION AFTER RE-ASSEMBLY 1 APPLICABILITY 1.1 This section applies to all aircraft that have been re-assembled after: (a) purchase from new (including LSA and factory built) (b) road or other transport © a period of disassembly Note: (b) and © do not apply to aircraft that normally and routinely have some degree of assembly prior to daily flying. 2 PRIVATELY OPERATED AIRCRAFT 2.1 Disassembly of an aircraft must be performed by a Level 1 or higher Maintenance Authority holder to ensure no damage occurs. 2.2 The Disassembly is to be recorded in an aircraft log book. 2.3 Re-assembly of an aircraft must be performed by a Level 1 or higher Maintenance Authority holder. 2.4 An independent post assembly inspection should be conducted to ensure that all assemblies and associated systems have been correctly fitted, connected and routed. The independent inspection is to be conducted by a Level 1 or higher Maintenance Authority holder. 2.5 An independent duplicate inspection of flight controls must be conducted by a Level 1 or higher Maintenance Authority holder. 2.6 The re-assembly must be recorded in an aircraft log book. 2.7 The independent duplicate inspection of flight controls must be recorded in the aircraft log book, detailing who conducted that inspection.

Yes page 93 and 98 That manual is is just recommended reading / reference/if your aircraft does not have a manual, ie plans built There is no American rule which we will be under . CASA however does recognise FAA publications and Kit 51% approvals . The pages93 and 98 explain what is required to be L1 and L2

That would be for L2 Spacy Do yourself a favour and read the RAA tech manual. Listening to old mate who heard from old mate, who................ will only get you BS. Look at Section 11.3 in the tech manual https://www.raa.asn.au/storage/2-raaus-technical-manual-issue-4-single-pages.pdf

adaptable to small kit helicopters?

Here are some paragraphs from RAA tech manual For AMATEUR-BUILT and E-LSA AIRCRAFT 3.1 Builders of amateur built and E-LSA aircraft may themselves weigh their aircraft and prepare the required weight and balance reports, after becoming a “Qualified Weigher” from successful completion of the RAAus Weight & Balance online education package. MAINTENANCE POLICY Under a grandfather clause all members who are maintaining their own RAAus registered aircraft have until 01/02/2017 to complete the L1 maintenance authority assessment. After 01/02/2017 members who have not completed the L1 assessment cannot continue to sign for maintenance performed on their own aircraft. (Does not apply for members completing line maintenance only) An individual that has completed the mandatory RAAus L1 or higher training process and has the appropriate qualifications and experience to carry out maintenance on an aircraft or aeronautical product may carry out the maintenance in accordance with the manufacturer’s schedule to ensure the continuing airworthiness of the aircraft the text below is from a chart on page 87 tats why its all messed up! MAINTENANCE TASK MAINTENANCE AUTHORITY REQUIRED PRIVATE OPERATIONS AMATEUR BUILT PRIVATE OPERATIONS FACTORY BUILT HIRE &/OR FLYING TRAINING Pre-flight Final Inspection (FORM 007) Builder with L4 observing Not Applicable Not Applicable Daily Inspection Pilot Pilot Pilot (not student) or Instructor Pre-flight inspection (“walk-around”) Pilot Pilot Pilot or Instructor (including students under supervision) Line Maintenance Pilot or L1, L2, L4 Pilot or L1, L2, L4 L2, L4 Scheduled Maintenance L1, L2, L4 L1, L2, L4 L2 or L4 Periodic Inspection L1, L2, L4 L1, L2, L4 L2 or L4 Repairs L1, L2, L4 L1, L2, L4 L2 or L4 Modifications Refer to Section 6.1 of Technical Manual Refer to Section 6.1 of Technical Manual Refer to Section 6.1 of Technical Manual RAAus or manufacturer Airworthiness Notices L1, L2, L4 L1, L2, L4 L2, L4 Heavy landing inspection L1, L2, L4 L1, L2, L4 L2, L4 Component overhaul L1, L2, L4 L1, L2, L4 L2, L4 Component replacement L1, L2, L4 L1, L2, L4 L2, L4 Welded repairs L1, L2, L4 CASA Welding Authority holders CASA Welding Authority holders Weight and Balance activities Qualified L1, L2, L4 or CASA WCO Qualified L1, L2 or CASA WCO Qualified L2 or CASA WCO Five levels of RAAus Maintenance Authority exist. To exercise any of these privileges, current membership of RAAus must be retained. Line Maintenance (LM): Pilot Certificate holders. Perform and record basic maintenance tasks listed in Section 12.7 of this manual (similar to the CASA Schedule 8 pilot permitted items). Pilots are reminded that they need to be competent to carry out the tasks. Level One (L1): Pilot Certificate holders. Perform and record maintenance activities carried out only on their own aircraft which are not used for hire and/or flying training. Completion of a Level 1 training course is required LINE MAINTENANCE (LM) Authority 3.1.1 All Pilot Certificate (excluding students) holders are automatically issued Line Maintenance Authority. 3.2 LEVEL ONE (L1) Maintenance Authority 3.2.1 Pilot Certificate holders (non-student) may be issued with an L1 Maintenance Authority following successful completion of the RAAus training and assessment available through the L1 Maintainer Training and Assessment Site within the RAAus website. Membership lapses in excess of 2 years will require re-validation of the maintenance authority by undertaking the course again. See Section 11.3 of this manual for more information INTRODUCTION 1.1 To qualify for a Level 1 (L1) Maintenance Authority, members must successfully complete the RAAus assessment available through the L1 Maintainer Training and Assessment Site within the RAAus website, or via an alternately arranged paper based assessment. 1.2 A training package is available, consisting of a self-paced course utilising a range of resources, which include: a study guide, an FAA Publication providing maintainers with guidance on how to complete various maintenance and inspection tasks, a link to the CASA airworthiness directives (ADs) webpage and a links to other relevant resources. Annex A within this section, describes the basic elements of the training package. 1.3 Upon successful completion of the assessment, results advice will be sent to the member and will have the L1 qualification added to their Pilot Certificate at the next renewal. In the interim, the results advice may be used as evidence of having satisfactorily completed the course. 1.4 Persons completing this training package are expected to: • Complete the Study Guide • Review the guidance material provided • Complete the on-line assessment (50 multi-choice questions, 80% pass mark, 3 hours 30 minute time limit) • Provide feedback on the training and assessment package 2 RECORD OF EXPERIENCE 2.1 It is suggested that L1’s maintain a separate record of their maintenance experience, listing aircraft type(s) and work performed. This may be useful in the event that an L1 wishes to apply for an L2 maintenance authority at a later date, or, to assist with any competency based audits that the Technical Manager may request. Then after this is the syllabus in chart form etc . Really is compulsory reading for all RAA members I think. Enjoy the read. Im off to bed Brendan

I cant help with that Spacie . Hopfully someone who can will come along soon. Would you like to fill us in on what exactly is going on with your build/inspection? Yes I am aware of that . Perhaps the sentence followinng that should have read " Even THOUGH he is not legally responsible ................ I just finished reading the RAA tech manual. I was always under the impression that I had to build the aircraft to maintain it. [i believe this is the case in GA experimental]? Now I realise that you only need L1 after a short course and test to maintain, except LSA flight training and hire AC needs L2 This is great news to me as It means I don't need to spend the time I don't really have spare ,building an aircraft ,so I can maintain it.? I can go and buy a 2nd hand j230 , do the L1 and maintain it? is that correct? Would I be able to fit Rotec LCH , and direct fuel injection , or would this need modification approval? Have I got the facts straight here?

Sounds like it would have been awesome fun. But I missed the party. Now I will have to spend 8-10 grand to be licenced to do the same. Maybe there could be something like a microlight certificate Say 130kg empty weight max . no pax. test to check you know about circuits and where controlled airspace is ,reading charts. 5000 feet max Maybe 10hours instruction in a drifter or similar. radio compulsory Spend about $2000 on the licence at $150-$200 per hour. Log 50hours then you might be able to go for RPC. a couple more tests and maybe a min 5 hours instruction etc. just dreamin out loud. would be a much cheaper start to flying for those with a mortgage , young family etc. back to the roots as described abouve but with a little more "control" to keep CASA happy!

I would like to see something similar to FAA part 103. Aircraft under about 130kg no licence , no inspection , nothing.!! Just go down to Bunnings , grab some sticks , glue and aluminium.a briggs and Stratton, and build yerself one of dem der flyin machines. now that s cheap flying. Was that how it used to be? but you could not cross roads or fly above 500ft or so?

Possibly for aircraft like the cri cri. Does hybrid engine technology count as two engines? I remember reading about an electric motor placed at the prop hub which could be used for a short time during take off and combustion engine failure. about 20kg plus battery Also multiple smaller electric motors are being experimented with I believe. Small turbines would be nice , especially for the mosquito type helicopters. they look like scary fun

Welcome Visy I am 42 and only recently became interested in flying. I too am researching and studying as I save for flying lessons. [ Young family ,just bought first house so saving is tough] I went on a quick Trial introductory flight just to see if I was chicken ,and loved it. Bit bumpy due to thermals but you get used to that apparently. The guys [and a few girls] here are helpful and will answer all the dumb questions and even have a crack at the smart ones! The great thing with aviation is that there is so much to learn for those interested. enjoy almost forgot check out the tutorials on this site. Top right corner

Where did Spacie go? maybe bed. You Need to remember that the inspector wants to see that the wing is built properly for your own safety.He does not want to be the guy who signed off the experimental AC that shed a wing on the first flight. Even if he is not legally responsible, he would never forgive himself. This is why photos and log books are important. Not a bad Idea to get inside wings inspected before closing. If not by the final certifier then by a LAME or someone qualified. take photos and get them to sign log book.

I would think that the person inspecting the aircraft would like to see the back side of the solid rivets to ensure they are squashed properly and not too close the Rib flange edge. Wether they Must is probably debatable , however if the wing is already assembled and there is no inspection holes that will be difficult. A couple small holes and a bore scope might be a solution to that

Hi Spacesailor I feel your pain. One of the reasons I am putting all the links up here, is to try and collate all the info needed to build and maintain your own aircraft either in RAA or VH experimental. I found the info scattered all over the place . almost like its hidden. As CASA accept FAA and other National Airworthiness Authority Approved Kits ,to comply with the Majority rule. You would hope the guide that FAA published would provide acceptable definitions of terms like "Fabricate and Assemble" I could not Find CASA definitions of those terms. The Paragraph below is from the FAA Job check guide as linked to Above So Here is the FAA definitions. FAA Order 8130.2 defines fabrication as: “To perform work on any material, part or component, such as layout, bending, countersinking, straightening, cutting, sewing, gluing/bonding, lay-up, forming, shaping, trimming, drilling, de-burring, machining, applying protective coatings, surface preparation and priming, riveting, welding or heat-treating, transforming the material, part or component toward or into its finished state. “ The FAA does not define “assembly.” However, such work that does not fall under the definition of fabrication is considered assembly. In work such as riveting, there can be some confusion concerning different components. The guidance this guide offers depends on the component, task at hand, and how it is being applied. When attaching a metal skin to a basic wing structure (i.e., the spar and ribs forming the basic wing structure) the riveting that fastens the skin to the ribs should be considered assembly work, not fabrication. However

Here is the RAA Technical Manual. https://www.raa.asn.au/storage/2-raaus-technical-manual-issue-4-single-pages.pdf Recommended reading in the RAA manual is the FAA Acceptable Methods,Techniques and Practices -- Aircraft Inspection and Repair. All 696 pages. This Manual is not to Replace Aircraft Manufacturers Manuals . However it is essential for anybody who is building or maintaining an aircraft with no manual available. https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/AC43.13-1b.pdf