red750 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 A little more conventional- but aerobatic so not so conventional for a twin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Phillips Pjc ST2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Close enough. Speedtwin comet developed from the Phillips ST1 Phillips Pjc ST2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 OK. But the UK register shows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 St OK. But the UK register shows[ATTACH=full]52890[/ATTACH] yes and no. The register shows the original builder/designer who died soon after construction started - this is the second airframe. The project then was taken up by a company and finished with inverted inline engines and then modified further to add these flat engines and change the canopy/nose as the preproduction prototype - then it got the new numbers and name - that’s why close enough - it was the ST2 but was modified into the Speedtwin comet by Speedtwin company from the original part built Phillips ST 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 [ATTACH=full]52888[/ATTACH] I’ll admit I googled this one. Hate to think of the drive shaft running up the fin and going through a gearbox or universal at the top of the fin. Hate to think what a drive shaft failure left you control wise Colani Cormoran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Head in the clouds Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 I can't recall what it's called but it's a Russian cropduster I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 PZL M-15 Belphagor Yes it was a crop duster to replace the an2 ... but it didn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Yes, described as the ugliest jet ever built, according to the page where I found the photo.Built in Poland to meet a Russian requirement for an agricultural aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head in the clouds Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Yes, described as the ugliest jet ever built, according to the page where I found the photo.Built in Poland to meet a Russian requirement for an agricultural aircraft. Yes ... but wasn't it also the first pure jet cropduster? Might have been ugly but probably quite practical I'd think, huge hoppers in the right place, high tail and all that. Lots of wing area, structurally simple. And let's be fair - the Russians have built far uglier aircraft than that one ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Yes ... but wasn't it also the first pure jet cropduster? Might have been ugly but probably quite practical I'd think, huge hoppers in the right place, high tail and all that. Lots of wing area, structurally simple.And let's be fair - the Russians have built far uglier aircraft than that one ;-) Not practical in use - far too slow in flight to be efficient on the jet and takeoff acceleration too poor to be truely useful. Only 175 built and the AN2 it was supposed to replace just continues to be used past the retirement of the jet duster. If it had used a turboprop instead it may heve been a better aircraft in its design environment ...but from what I read years ago the Russians insist eyed on a jet so got it and were the only buyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotax618 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 How about this Delta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraemeK Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Heuberger-Rinker H-5 Stinger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotax618 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rotax618 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Plan of the Stinger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 [ATTACH=full]52914[/ATTACH] Caproni Ca60 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Caproni Ca60 You sure knows yaw hairy planes! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 You sure knows yaw hairy planes! Actually had a job while at uni watching old film for a production house and identifying/cataloging all the aircraft into a database. It gets a bit boring after the first 70-80 hours and you start going into sub types and then into unit markings as well on the wwii stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Actually had a job while at uni watching old film for a production house and identifying/cataloging all the aircraft into a database. It gets a bit boring after the first 70-80 hours and you start going into sub types and then into unit markings as well on the wwii stuff. Crickey Kaspar, how'd you get a job like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Crickey Kaspar, how'd you get a job like that? It's amazing what appears on the notice board at student unions ... and how little students will accept to sit and watch a tv screen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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