pudestcon Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Does anybody know anything about this Two survive ultra-light plane crash - The West Australian Pud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Pilot and PAX OK. Jabiru 170 from Tooradin on a trip to Broken Hill had an engine failure 59NM south of Broken Hill. Failure of cylinder head bolts on number 4 cylinder. Fortunately were able to glide to a station private airstrip and landed without further damage to aircraft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Wonderful ad for the quality of Tooradin training, but how many cylinder bolt failures before there's a fix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerin Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 "landed without further damage".....doesn't sound like a "plane crash" to me! Just a little bit of media exaggeration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pudestcon Posted July 3, 2010 Author Share Posted July 3, 2010 Good to hear everyone is ok. Cylinder head bolts on a Jab engine - have I heard this before? It will be interesting to find out the cause. Pud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 head bolts. Are we talking of head bolts or crankcase studs? Nev.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted July 3, 2010 Share Posted July 3, 2010 Just media reports so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Anybody know the rego? I've had a similair problem last year in one of them.... Varying Oil pressure, High temps, rough running and fuel consumption around 26lph. ECG on the right hand side was at least 20 degrees hotter. Great fun 100 nm from the nearest strip crossing the Barkley. thumb_down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonymcg Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Gibbo, it was the J160 with the 170 wings, you'll know the one ;-) 2 of the left-rear cylinder studs let go. The guys were lucky (??) enough to be overhead a station which had a HUUUGE private strip, maybe 1.4 kms long and 40m wide. -32.894000, 141.987000 - Google Maps I'll leave it to the PIC, a forum member, to fill in further details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo Posted July 4, 2010 Share Posted July 4, 2010 Hmmm.. That had a new motor not long ago.. about the time I killed 5228.. lol That area is covered in private strips and some are a little more elabirate that what you would find on the east coast.. Rice mills make reallt good hangers and workshops. Gibbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ozzie Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Media reports say the police are looking for witnesses to the forced landing, ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayKay Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 The registration of the aircraft is 24-4587 Some pics of the motor after the event ... Note the two missing bolt heads on the cylinder head and the through-bolt is just loose (with no head) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayKay Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Media reports say the police are looking for witnesses to the forced landing, ?? Maybe some kangaroos, but that would be about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryon Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Two survive ultra-light plane crash - The West Australian[/url]Pud I can tell you a little bit about this one Pud, I was PIC The engine failed at 3100 feet , my pucker clamped shut at 3099 feet :lol 8: and it was all downhill from there Bryon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pudestcon Posted July 5, 2010 Author Share Posted July 5, 2010 I can tell you a little bit about this one Pud, I was PICThe engine failed at 3100 feet , my pucker clamped shut at 3099 feet :lol 8: and it was all downhill from there Bryon Jeez Bryon, Glad to hear you are ok - tell me, did the pucker factor interfere with your piles:laugh: I reckon my pucker would have opened wide if you know what I mean:yuk: How did the aircraft perform with no noise - was it much different to simulated engine failure where the engine is at idle? Did you have enough time from 3000' to select a landing area and do all your checks including radio calls? As a matter of interest, did you make a mayday call? I reckon you'd be much more knowledgable now you have been through a real engine failure. I've asked a lot of questions here Bryon and will understand if you don't want to answer them. It's great that you are here so I can ask them:thumb_up: Cheers, Pud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryon Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Jeez Bryon,Glad to hear you are ok - tell me, did the pucker factor interfere with your piles:laugh: I reckon my pucker would have opened wide if you know what I mean:yuk: How did the aircraft perform with no noise - was it much different to simulated engine failure where the engine is at idle? Did you have enough time from 3000' to select a landing area and do all your checks including radio calls? As a matter of interest, did you make a mayday call? I reckon you'd be much more knowledgable now you have been through a real engine failure. I've asked a lot of questions here Bryon and will understand if you don't want to answer them. It's great that you are here so I can ask them:thumb_up: Cheers, Pud Pud, To tell you the truth, it happened real quick. We were at 3100, just climbing after dropping to 15-1800 to go under a cloud. The ground level was about 800, so I did not have the full 3100 to play with. THe engine gave a bang and continued to run real noisy and shaking the sh*t out of the plane. "Gosh" I said. I pulled the throttle and checked ts & ps. Oil pressure down and motor still shaking and banging. Slight throttle up, more banging and shaking Looked for somewhere to land to the left or straight ahead - nothing, only trees and scrub with the occasional 50m clearing Glen (my pax) said "There's a stip to the right" Turned right and we were exactly lined up with an east west dirt strip in a clearing about 3-4 nm away Checked speed, checked distance, checked height and knew we couldnt make a downwind and 180 turn into wind Decided to go with what we had, aimed for strip, keep speed down, changed from the numbers to area frequency and made a Mayday Call Gave em a rough position and concentrated on flying the plane Confirmed our rough position and came over the fence on the threshold at about 85 knots and lowered one stage of flap (strip was downhill slope and we had a tailwind) Bounced twice (bl**dy hell) and she stayed on the deck, brakes on, mags off and roll to stop Looked at pax and said "Oh jolly gosh" (or a word to that effect) About the only thing I didnt do was my pax brief, I was too busy flying the plane and my focus was on landing the bl**dy thing It all happened so quick, I reckon 2-3 minutes from time of initial bang Yes the training does kick in, so I recommend everyone practice their emergency landings at least once a month Bryon PS my pucker is still clamped shut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pudestcon Posted July 5, 2010 Author Share Posted July 5, 2010 PS my pucker is still clamped shut And so is mine just reading about it!! Well done:score 010: Pud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryon Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Thanks, I am starting to feel a little easier about it now But boy, it does get the old adrenalin pumping Bryon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JRMobile Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Bryon Well done mate! and thanks for sharing,sounds like a busy 3 minutes! Cheers John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryon Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Thanks JR, It was busy, but everything worked out OK I must thank Glen, if he hadnt spotted the strip, the outcome could have been a lot worse It is ironic that as we came out from under the cloud, I said to him that I was climbing because I didnt like this country and I want some glide height All the way up from Tooradin, we had been looking out for possible landing places as the trip was a bit of a xc exercise for Glen. He has just got his pilots certificate and had just done his ground training for his xc endorsement and he was doing the map reading I hope this hasnt put him off flying.... Bryon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winsor68 Posted July 5, 2010 Share Posted July 5, 2010 Wow... I shudder to think of the outcome if it had occurred 2 minutes earlier. I always shudder to read how little time it takes to be on the ground when reading these accounts. Well done in handling the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza 38 Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 Well done Byron, im glad yourself and Glen are fine.Top Job i reckon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomo Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 Why he's our drummer!!!! It's a wonder you knew the old girl had missed a beat... ( ) Good stuff Bryan, certainly would have gotten the blood pumping. I know when I had my EFATO It was all over in about 6 seconds, but boy did It wake you up! Great to hear what you actually did, comforting (at your expense I guess) to hear what others do. Keep it up :thumb_up: (the good bits only, obviously) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbo Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 The old girl has been in a few wars and has always come out on top. :) Well done guys. Gibbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pioneer200 Posted July 6, 2010 Share Posted July 6, 2010 Pud,To tell you the truth, it happened real quick. We were at 3100, just climbing after dropping to 15-1800 to go under a cloud. The ground level was about 800, so I did not have the full 3100 to play with. THe engine gave a bang and continued to run real noisy and shaking the sh*t out of the plane. "Gosh" I said. I pulled the throttle and checked ts & ps. Oil pressure down and motor still shaking and banging. Slight throttle up, more banging and shaking Looked for somewhere to land to the left or straight ahead - nothing, only trees and scrub with the occasional 50m clearing Glen (my pax) said "There's a stip to the right" Turned right and we were exactly lined up with an east west dirt strip in a clearing about 3-4 nm away Checked speed, checked distance, checked height and knew we couldnt make a downwind and 180 turn into wind Decided to go with what we had, aimed for strip, keep speed down, changed from the numbers to area frequency and made a Mayday Call Gave em a rough position and concentrated on flying the plane Confirmed our rough position and came over the fence on the threshold at about 85 knots and lowered one stage of flap (strip was downhill slope and we had a tailwind) Bounced twice (bl**dy hell) and she stayed on the deck, brakes on, mags off and roll to stop Looked at pax and said "Oh jolly gosh" (or a word to that effect) About the only thing I didnt do was my pax brief, I was too busy flying the plane and my focus was on landing the bl**dy thing It all happened so quick, I reckon 2-3 minutes from time of initial bang Yes the training does kick in, so I recommend everyone practice their emergency landings at least once a month Bryon PS my pucker is still clamped shut Sorry this may be a silly question but did you shut the engine off, or did you put up with the vibration and land it wih the prop still turning, from what you say about turning mags off on touchdown you must have landed it with prop still turning!!! How bad was the vibration?? By the way, bloody well done:clap: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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