eightyknots Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 I came across an interesting internet article which shows that ICP is "doing a Jabiru" by going beyond making airframes. I hope that the venture goes well: http://www.eaa.org/news/2012/2012-11-21_ICP-announces-new-LSA-engine.asp It makes an interesting read. The price is 12,000-13,000 Euros. 13,000 Euros = $AUD16,300 or $NZD20,600. Perhaps this is the dream engine everyone has been waiting for? We'll find out more details early next year, I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M61A1 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 I came across an interesting internet article which shows that ICP is "doing a Jabiru" by going beyond making airframes. I hope that the venture goes well:http://www.eaa.org/news/2012/2012-11-21_ICP-announces-new-LSA-engine.asp It makes an interesting read. The price is 12,000-13,000 Euros. 13,000 Euros = $AUD16,300 or $NZD20,600. Perhaps this is the dream engine everyone has been waiting for? We'll find out more details early next year, I'm sure. Looks like my Guzzi engine with a gear redrive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentreau Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Read a review on that in one of the French magazines this month. It's quite heavy at 80kg, and about the same price as the D-Motor which is 20k lighter. The good news is that there seem to be more and more engine options becoming available, maybe that will put some pressure on prices.... PS. There's already a thread about that here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerin Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 A two cylinder with up to 150hp would have a huge power pulse on each power stroke wouldn't it? Wouldn't that put a big strain on redrive and prop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightyknots Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share Posted December 4, 2012 Read a review on that in one of the French magazines this month.It's quite heavy at 80kg, and about the same price as the D-Motor which is 20k lighter. The good news is that there seem to be more and more engine options becoming available, maybe that will put some pressure on prices.... PS. There's already a thread about that here I understand that the 115 hp version will produce this power at a screaming 6,900 rpm (or 2400 at the propeller) and weighs 67 kg. Compare that with the carburettored 115hp Rotax (the Rotax 914) which achieves the same power at 5,800 rpm and weighs 64 kg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Communications Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=it&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.morinispecial.it%2Fjoomla%2Fcomponent%2Fcontent%2Farticle%2F156-avioengine.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightyknots Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=it&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http://www.vfrmagazine.net/pilotare/eventi/raduno-icp-2012-e-nuovo-motore/ The articles have grabbed my interest; now we have to wait for the details to filter through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxb Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Hello, I'm the author of the translated article about the new ICP engine. Usually automated translators make some mistakes... :-) , so i have to point that the project of the engine looks similar to other Morini (motorcycle) very succesful ones because the designer is the same (Ing. Franco Lambertini and his team), but it's NOT a motorcycle engine modified for aviation use: it's a brand new project done expressly and solely for aviation (there will not be derivation for land use: too different project requirements make this a nonsense). As for the weight, 67 Kg is to be intended as "Installed" (914 is, in this configuration, 75,5 Kg). There are several patented news on it, regarding mainly reliability, easier maintenance and fuel consumption. Being a modular design, there is plenty of possibilities of different future versions (4 cyl?). Ciao! Max 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Communications Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Hi Max Thanks a lot for letting us know we are all very interested in this new development. Seeing that you are right at the forefront there would you please pass on any links or video that comes up with this engine it would be much appreciated and there are a lot of people here wanting info . Mark 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightyknots Posted December 6, 2012 Author Share Posted December 6, 2012 Hello,I'm the author of the translated article about the new ICP engine. Usually automated translators make some mistakes... :-) , so i have to point that the project of the engine looks similar to other Morini (motorcycle) very succesful ones because the designer is the same (Ing. Franco Lambertini and his team), but it's NOT a motorcycle engine modified for aviation use: it's a brand new project done expressly and solely for aviation (there will not be derivation for land use: too different project requirements make this a nonsense). As for the weight, 67 Kg is to be intended as "Installed" (914 is, in this configuration, 75,5 Kg). There are several patented news on it, regarding mainly reliability, easier maintenance and fuel consumption. Being a modular design, there is plenty of possibilities of different future versions (4 cyl?). Ciao! Max Hi MaxThanks a lot for letting us know we are all very interested in this new development. Seeing that you are right at the forefront there would you please pass on any links or video that comes up with this engine it would be much appreciated and there are a lot of people here wanting info . Mark Yes, I agree with Mark. There is a lot of interest in new engine options at the moment. The new ICP engine sounds like a very interesting alternative. I would also be happy if you could pass links on to us (on this thread). Thanks for the extra information, Max. I was especially interested in your weight comparison with the Rotax 914! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Max, why do you publish in Italian when most of us speak English? Engine looks good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxb Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Hi, No problem! Yes, the article was published on an online Italian magazine, and then of course was in Italian . Looking at how the automated translation was looking, I was just clarifying wat was looking to me not so well translated by the system. And, still to be just clear: I have no personal interest in promoting ICP products: I'm just a customer of them (my bread come from working on computers). I just live few kilometers far from the ICP plant, no more, no less. When I'll have news, I'll let you know. Ciao! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Communications Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 Thank you Max one again. You didn't need to clarify it we all understood perfectly why and yes keep this forum updated when you can Mark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightyknots Posted December 6, 2012 Author Share Posted December 6, 2012 Now, back to the new ICP motor....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarly Gnu Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 On topic - a new engine is welcome and it all sounds good although personally I'm not a fan of these reduction drive things revving their little hearts out to get anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaz3g Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Just block him, ,,, Hey MM What's that lovely little thing in your avatar? What are you flying now? Kaz Kaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxb Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Hello, At the Friedricshafen fair (Aero 2013, Germany), both the new engine as well as the Savannah J (a new* taildragger version of the Savannah) were officially presented. Here you can see both of them: BTW, engine tests are proceeding correctly. Only the weather looks not to be very good this spring here in Italy * = taildragger versions were already done in the past, but this one will be probably certified. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerin Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 The Savannah just looks "right" as a taildragger. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightyknots Posted May 25, 2013 Author Share Posted May 25, 2013 I think the nose looks proportionally too high. In my opinion, the Savannah looks better in the tricycle configuration. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 yes good idea but you shouldn't be posting in ICPs thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 http://www.recreationalflying.com/threads/new-australian-aero-engine-rumours.63582/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightyknots Posted July 15, 2013 Author Share Posted July 15, 2013 Some more info on the new ICP engine here ----> http://experimenter.epubxp.com/i/108002/26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxb Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Hello, Just to keep you updated about engine: tests are proceeding with success. The team is working on refinig consumption, engine mapping and so on. Right now it has not yet beem airborne due to the simple reason thet the test equipment is too big and bulky to be carried on board (and jut having it flying does not add anythimg to the test thay can perfrm on ground). The idea is anyway to have it flying before the end of current year. Now something interesting: a Powerpoint presentation with a lot of inner information about the engine. It's here: http://fly-buylsa.com/uploads/MotoreDellaNebbia.ppt , you shoud find it quite interesting. Ciao! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 url corrected http://fly-buylsa.com/uploads/MotoreDellaNebbia.ppt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightyknots Posted September 30, 2013 Author Share Posted September 30, 2013 Hello,Just to keep you updated about engine: tests are proceeding with success. The team is working on refinig consumption, engine mapping and so on. Right now it has not yet beem airborne due to the simple reason thet the test equipment is too big and bulky to be carried on board (and jut having it flying does not add anythimg to the test thay can perfrm on ground). The idea is anyway to have it flying before the end of current year. Now something interesting: a Powerpoint presentation with a lot of inner information about the engine. It's here: http://fly-buylsa.com/uploads/MotoreDellaNebbia.ppt , you shoud find it quite interesting. Ciao! Thanks for the Power Point presentation: very informative! I hope the engine works out well. I wonder, will new ICP engine run on 'regular' unleaded mo gas, high octane mo gas, or av gas? Also, what kind of pricing can we expect for this engine? (hopefully a lot better than the "OXTRA") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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