Capn Wannabe Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 There are two theories that I've heard as to what actually happened to cause the crash: One is that it was a TIF, and the instructor was talking the student through the takeoff, student pulled the yoke all the way back and the aircraft subsequently stalled and crashed. The other is the seat wasn't properly locked into place and slid all the way back as the aircraft rotated, taking the yoke with it. I saw the impact - not very pretty to watch - and was very relieved to see the two occupants exit the aircraft unassisted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 The problem with the seat theory is either pilot should have been able to recover the situation. The instructor cannot always overcome a control input from a student, if it is firm enough.( Unless he hits him with a brick, which is frowned upon in some circles). Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 The Instructor would probably have a fair idea of what went wrong, and in this case is available to be asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 What a good idea. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Of course, that's assuming he'll talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 VE HAFF VAYS surely. Nev 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffreywh Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 stop calling me shirley 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozbear Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 I saw a great safety item fitted to the bottom of a pilots seat it worked like a inertia seat belt and locked the seat rails if the seat slipped suddenly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Good thinking. It would have to be an unapproved mod or it wouldn't be there. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Funny. Geoff . I didn't know you were Shirley. Did you mean, Stop calling me!..... Shirley. ? Nev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozbear Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Good thinking. It would have to be an unapproved mod or it wouldn't be there. Nev Yes Nev I think it was ,a must for a sky diving aircraft you would think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camel Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Good thinking. It would have to be an unapproved mod or it wouldn't be there. Nev I have seen this fitted to a C172 and believe it was supplied by Cessna as an approved mod, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M61A1 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Airpockets don't exist. Nev Just what do I call the pockets on my flight suit then.......? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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