JoeDallas Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Building Vans RV12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recflyer Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Building Vans RV12 Welcome. Nice aircraft! Do you have any pictures of the build? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexrbetter Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 G'day Joe, so you're rippin into an RV12, that'll keep ya above the blowies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDallas Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 Yes See www.joesrv12.com The site is not up to date to busy building Planning on a Jabiru Engine Welcome. Nice aircraft! Do you have any pictures of the build? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexrbetter Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Planning on a Jabiru Engine I thought the RV12's advantage was in being a certified LSA, does that not mean you have to use the certified Rotax engine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDallas Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 I am building EAB it is still a light sport Aircraft In my View that is a advantage building the plane I want I thought the RV12's advantage was in being a certified LSA, does that not mean you have to use the certified Rotax engine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexrbetter Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Planning on a Jabiru Engine You might like to search the forum for and Google "Camit" engines, they are improved and optimised Jabiru engines and highly thought of around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza 38 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Welcome Joe:wave: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDallas Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 Can someone tell me what is the relationship between Jabiru and Camit is Thanks all for the welcome Joe D You might like to search the forum for and Google "Camit" engines, they are improved and optimised Jabiru engines and highly thought of around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Hostility. Nev 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palexxxx Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 You might like to search the forum for and Google "Camit" engines, they are improved and optimised Jabiru engines and highly thought of around here. Why don't you just add a link to the CaMit website? http://camitaeroengines.net/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexrbetter Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Can someone tell me what is the relationship between Jabiru and Camit isThanks all for the welcome Joe D Camit are the engineering works that manufacturer the engine for Jabiru. Camit builds the certified engines for Jabiru to the certified spec and Camit also sell their own non-certified version with some modifications they believe resolve some on-going Jabiru problems (as they see it). Jabiru can't make the same changes without going through the whole re-certifying process unfortunately - seems the system is a little bit broken. Why don't you just add a link to the CaMit website? I would like to explain it but it's very painful and brings up memories from my past when I as an Altar Boy at the Church, oh no, now I remember, you bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashley Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Looks good but why are you going to go with a jabiru engine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDallas Posted May 8, 2015 Author Share Posted May 8, 2015 No gear box Lower RPM More HP 6 cylinders Less vibration Less Money Joe D Looks good but why are you going to go with a jabiru engine 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDallas Posted May 8, 2015 Author Share Posted May 8, 2015 Thanks Sounds a bit confusing Chicken or egg Bill Gates and IBM I guess I will be talking to CaMit Thanks Joe D Camit are the engineering works that manufacturer the engine for Jabiru. Camit builds the certified engines for Jabiru to the certified spec and Camit also sell their own non-certified version with some modifications they believe resolve some on-going Jabiru problems (as they see it). Jabiru can't make the same changes without going through the whole re-certifying process unfortunately - seems the system is a little bit broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarly Gnu Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Welcome Joe, all the best with your build! Few years now since I've visited Florida, really enjoyed it there. Like avionics these engines are improving over time so it might be a good idea not to purchase until you are about ready to install. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexrbetter Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Less Money Really? I guess if you haven't got the cash up front then that's the bottom line, but the resale value of your RV12 will be far lower than the difference between the Jab engine and the Rotax. Few years now since I've visited Florida, really enjoyed it there. Did you get a picture with Mickey and Goofy? Like avionics these engines are improving over time so it might be a good idea not to purchase until you are about ready to install. Good point, Jabiru is currently working on their 5th iteration so you might want to enquire about that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDallas Posted May 8, 2015 Author Share Posted May 8, 2015 I guessing that you didn't look at my site like you are guessing that I don't have any money Saving money is not the reason that I will not use a Rotax I guessing again that you agree with all the other reasons I listed I would put a Continental O200-D if I could get the W&B in range. Some people love Rotax Engines I am not one of them. As some like Fords and some like Chevy. Is it customary on this site to jump on somebody that has a different option. We all love our Aircraft and there is so many types , should we all be flying the same Aircraft If you like Rotax I will respect your opinion please respect my opinion. Really? I guess if you haven't got the cash up front then that's the bottom line, but the resale value of your RV12 will be far lower than the difference between the Jab engine and the Rotax. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarly Gnu Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Hey Joe, don't worry about Bex he just has a bit of a mid-life attitude problem at times & gets hot flushes when Jabiru is mentioned. Did you get a picture with Mickey and Goofy? No, I have some good friends just north of Orlando. I've never been to Disney world (or dismal world as my friends there call it) so you and FT will have have to photoshop the three of us togther. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashley Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 jabiru 3300 81 kg installed , rotax 64 kg installed how does this affect the weight and balance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff13 Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 jabiru 3300 81 kg installed , rotax 64 kg installedhow does this affect the weight and balance He said he would put a continental O-200 in if he could get the w&b right. Not that he would put a Rotax in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexrbetter Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 Is it customary on this site to jump on somebody that has a different option. . You mean the way I pointed you towards Camit and helped you understand the differences between them and Jabiru as well as informing you of Jabiru's upcoming new models? You are the one, not me, who stated "less money" as a factor so one might presume you are trying to save money. Based on your, not my, comment, I stated a fact; The value of your RV12 with a Jabiru engine will be lower. I was pointing out, trying to be helpful, that the money saving in the long run would be false economics - I am merely a messenger. Hey Joe, don't worry about Bex he just has a bit of a mid-life attitude problem at times & gets hot flushes when Jabiru is mentioned. You mean the way I pointed him towards Camit and helped him understand the differences between them and Jabiru as well as informing him of Jabiru's upcoming new models? We obviously have some distance in our beliefs of what helpful is. No, I have some good friends just north of Orlando. I've never been to Disney world (or dismal world as my friends there call it) so you and FT will have have to photoshop the three of us togther. Ok, .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDallas Posted May 9, 2015 Author Share Posted May 9, 2015 It works with the battery in the tail. jabiru 3300 81 kg installed , rotax 64 kg installedhow does this affect the weight and balance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crashley Posted May 9, 2015 Share Posted May 9, 2015 will be interesting to see how it performs with the extra hp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDallas Posted May 9, 2015 Author Share Posted May 9, 2015 Ok Thanks for the Camit information. In my view the Rotax engine is over priced I would rather put the money in the panel. The Jabiru may not be the best choice. The light sport weight of 1320 lbs makes this difficult and unsafe. Continental spent a lot of money to cut 20lbs off the 0200. Cutting weight out of the Aircraft is also not a good idea. If the light sport weight was about 1450 lbs we could put a safe engine in out aircraft, not a Jabiru or a chain saw engine. There's a difference in saving money and wasting money. I may have over reacted to the money comment. Also your resale comment may or may not be true. The fact is I will have a lot more money in my 12 then the standard RV12 However I will have the aircraft I want. Sorry for my reaction to your comments. Joe D You mean theway I pointed you towards Camit and helped you understand the differences between them and Jabiru as well as informing you of Jabiru's upcoming new models? You are the one, not me, who stated "less money" as a factor so one might presume you are trying to save money. Based on your, not my, comment, I stated a fact; The value of your RV12 with a Jabiru engine will be lower. I was pointing out, trying to be helpful, that the money saving in the long run would be false economics - I am merely a messenger. You mean the way I pointed him towards Camit and helped him understand the differences between them and Jabiru as well as informing him of Jabiru's upcoming new models? We obviously have some distance in our beliefs of what helpful is. Ok, .... [ATTACH=full]35560[/ATTACH] 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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