Nightmare Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Got my SK kit in 98 and flown since 2001 on the same engine. And the plane is not for sale, although my son says I should be changing to a Jabiru 170 because of its bigger cockpit. I operate it like Nightmare does, keeping an eye on the temperatures and acting accordingly. This is a small price to pay for the really big money savings compared to a rotax. I must stress, my plane is only RELUCTANTLY for sale. I'd be quite happy to still be it's proud owner in 12 months time. I'm likely to withdraw it from sale soon. It is a great aircraft.Mind you, like you, I'd be tempted with upgrading to a J170, or even a J160 for the larger MTOW. It would give me better PAX and baggage options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmccarthy Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 I have been looking at J230 options in the event that my GA medical issues are prolonged. There are nine for sale at present in the $65-75k range, with various options. and two J430s that could go on RAA register with the back seats out. I have ruled out Camit and Rotax power in these, but I don't know enough about the 3300 engine to know if there are better and worse options. Engine times range from 6 to 576 hours, build dates all 2007 to 2010. Of course there are a range of props and cockpit equipment. What should I look for, specifically on engines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossK Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 So reading through this, fixed cost for rego, insurance and hanger costs are going to be around $100/wk for someone close to a city. Hourly costs are typically $50-60/hr. So unless you're doing 2 hours a week minimum, hiring a J160 or similar for $120-140 is a better option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 aircraft are a very bad investment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossK Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 ^ Much like boats, my other hobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camel Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 There are three things that do things beginning with “F” that will take your money ! If it Flys, Floats or F. Guess the last one ! I had all three ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Tuncks Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 My gliders were a good investment... the Mosquito cost $14,000 and was sold 20 years later for $32,000 with about 2000 hours on the clock. These 2000 hours would have cost me $100,000 at a hire rate of $50 an hour. Profit= $118,000 The Jabiru is not so good, it cost about $36,000 and is worth ( I hope ) about $20,000 now. It has flown 600 hours which at a hire rate of $100 an hour is worth about $60,000. If you too have a talent for turning a blind eye to costs, you can figure out that the Jabiru has returned $42,000. And this is not counting the savings the Jabiru has made by keeping me out of the pub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozfergie Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Try to find a syndicate - best move I ever made - but there is a real lack of a central "marketplace" info for those wanting to join/create a syndicate. Happy to share our running costs - offline. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 So reading through this, fixed cost for rego, insurance and hanger costs are going to be around $100/wk for someone close to a city. Hourly costs are typically $50-60/hr.So unless you're doing 2 hours a week minimum, hiring a J160 or similar for $120-140 is a better option. And there's a whole lot less hassle, when you go for a fly, no need to book the plane, just jump in and fly after your pre-flights. Then there's the nice feeling that you know who flew her last, that is, you, so everything should be as you left it last flight. Not sure if that's worth anything, but it gives me a good feeling. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keenaviator Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Any engine issues? No. Run it cool. Maintain it properly. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Tuncks Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Is there a cheaper new aircraft to own and operate than a Jabiru? European Rotax things would be about twice as much. Mind you, if they are cantilever wings and carbon fiber, you do get a nice plane for the 2 or 3 times money. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Tuncks Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Just look at the blackshape prime... between 250,000 and 300,000 dollars, and they may be us$ so add an extra $60,000. But I have to admit that I would swap my SK jab for one..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightmare Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Just look at the blackshape prime... between 250,000 and 300,000 dollars, and they may be us$ so add an extra $60,000.But I have to admit that I would swap my SK jab for one..... Wow, you could buy a house for that. But it wouldn't fly as well as the Blackshape... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAB123 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Good luck AZNA, the Jabiru is probably the cheapest plane to run, except for the fact that you can't leave it tied down outside. Why can't it be tied down out side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAB123 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Or is it because they love to FLY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coljones Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Volvo is owned by Geely, the Chinese car company, people won't pay a premium for Chinese cars unless they have European branding The C30 was built in Belgium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Tuncks Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 Fibreglass can be damaged by UV from the sun. There is a Pipistrel Virus at Gawler needing about $15,000 of refinish work because it was tied down outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 The C30 was built in Belgium. built = assembled from parts imported from china Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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