Air India crash

[Roundsounds]

10 hours ago, onetrack said:

I flew on one of Virgins B737-8FE's today (VH-YQR), and while waiting to load everyone on, I looked up the history of the aircraft.

 

I was surprised to come across an ATSB Incident Report from 2023, detailing a major flight upset with this aircraft, approaching cruise level - and the interesting part is - it involves an incorrect switch selection, due to distraction.

 

I thought this report made for an interesting read, and it shows just how easily a mistake in control selection can be made and how long it takes to figure out what has gone wrong with aircraft handling.

 

Inadvertent rudder trim input led to 737 in-flight upset | ATSB

WWW.ATSB.GOV.AU

 

Air Nippon beat Virgin to it and managed over 130 degrees angle of bank. 
 

link to JTSB report 

[Roundsounds]

1 hour ago, red750 said:

 

Three crashes where the mental health of the pilots has been considered a possible cause - MH370, Germanwings and Air India.

Aside from ramblings by a range of self promoting keyboard experts there is no evidence of AI-171 being linked to mental health issues (or aircraft system faults). 

[facthunter]

A thorough Investigation requires that you don't rule out anything. Nev

[Moneybox]

8 hours ago, Roundsounds said:

Air Nippon beat Virgin to it and managed over 130 degrees angle of bank. 
 

link to JTSB report 

 

Just as well they had a spare 11,000 ft to sort it out. Even though they had plenty of elevation they exceeded the maximum speed and load on the aircraft while in a vertical dive.

[facthunter]

Any "UPSET" at cruise level requires about 9,000 ft to sort it out IF you are not right on the Ball anticipating it. Turbulence and control movements add extra drag and you are thrust limited especially if you are at "Coffin Corner" which I made a point of never going.  It's where your VMo and MMo come together.   Nev