BurnieM Posted Wednesday at 12:13 AM Posted Wednesday at 12:13 AM SkyEcho Installation and Pilot’s Guide "8.3.2 1090ES Transmit This setting configures SkyEcho for transmission. Select the checkbox to enable transmission if allowed in your operating location. Deselect the checkbox to disable transmission. Transmission must be deactivated when used on an aircraft with an Air Traffic Control Radar Beacon System (ATCRBS) Mode-S transponder which has ADS-B OUT enabled. In certain countries, deactivation may be required based upon location or altitude. Refer to country-specific addendum."
Garfly Posted Wednesday at 12:20 AM Posted Wednesday at 12:20 AM 25 minutes ago, Love to fly said: Interesting thread. We have ADSB in/out in our aircraft, not connected to the iPad . But I use AvPlan which also displays ADSB traffic including some FLARM (gliders) //. .... But .. I do worry we’re getting more fixated on screens as opposed to looking out the window. I'd say that fixating on any one thing can be dangerous in aviation (even more so on the road). But that'd include fixating on the front window if the threat is not to be seen out there. While driving we instinctively combine info from all three mirrors and the view out-front to get the situational awareness we need. Maybe we need to develop that kind of instinct in the air to divide our attention between screen and windscreen. 3 1
Garfly Posted Wednesday at 02:02 AM Posted Wednesday at 02:02 AM 2 hours ago, skippydiesel said: I have a SE2 & a Trig TT22 Mode S transponder. Have never quite got my head around all the ins/out however I have been assured that the operation of the SE2, in parallel with the Trig is perfectly legal/acceptable. So I am wondering about statement along the lines of; ".......transmit function turn off in my SkyEcho2 because it was last used in an aircraft with a adsb transponder...." ".......it's against the regs to have two OUT devices going at once in the same aircraft)....." To the best of my limited understanding my SE2 is operating to its full capacity , no functions have been switched of😈 Skippy, I thought the waters were well clarified on this issue last year. I thought we established that your transponder while Mode S was not an ES ADSB-OUT device and therefore was fine to run together with your SE2 (IN and OUT). That being the case, no contradiction arises between any of the statements you quote above - including your own. 2
skippydiesel Posted Wednesday at 02:02 AM Author Posted Wednesday at 02:02 AM 1 hour ago, Garfly said: I'd say that fixating on any one thing can be dangerous in aviation (even more so on the road). Agreed But that'd include fixating on the front window if the threat is not to be seen out there. While driving we instinctively combine info from all three mirrors and the view out-front to get the situational awareness we need. Maybe we need to develop that kind of instinct in the air to divide our attention between screen and windscreen. Obvious statement; Humans are not adapted for flight. When it come to in flight eye sight / see and avoid, we are, to put it mildly, CRAP! On & from the ground (in a vehicle) we function quite well. Our eyes are adapted to see against a contrasting (limited) two dimensional world. In the past, in certain areas, our best defence against a mid air incident, is/was the low chance of encountering another aircraft. We need "clues" ( target a visual search area) where to look for other airborne aircraft We developed airborne radio & communication systems that have served us very well - recent down grading not so good. The arrival of low cost electronic systems (OzRunways/SE2/transponders) that can be fitted to small aircraft, has been a wonderful leap forward in safety BUT as you say should not be totally relied on (fixated) but used in conjunction with good radio comms & see & avoid😈
skippydiesel Posted Wednesday at 02:10 AM Author Posted Wednesday at 02:10 AM Its now mid week and there has been no response from OzRunway regarding my "outage" enquiry or for that matter much comment from the Forum😈
skippydiesel Posted Wednesday at 02:13 AM Author Posted Wednesday at 02:13 AM Garfly - My comment is more about eliciting a response, regarding the two quotes, rather than my particular circumstance, which as you rightly point out was resolved some time ago. The two comments may confuse those who are equal to me, when it comes to all this new fangled technology.😈
Garfly Posted Wednesday at 02:57 AM Posted Wednesday at 02:57 AM 44 minutes ago, skippydiesel said: Its now mid week and there has been no response from OzRunway regarding my "outage" enquiry or for that matter much comment from the Forum😈 You may need to trim your expectations regarding the Forum. To my mind, though, you got a pretty good run. 1
Blueadventures Posted Wednesday at 05:09 AM Posted Wednesday at 05:09 AM 5 hours ago, skippydiesel said: I have a SE2 & a Trig TT22 Mode S transponder. Have never quite got my head around all the ins/out however I have been assured that the operation of the SE2, in parallel with the Trig is perfectly legal/acceptable. So I am wondering about statement along the lines of; ".......transmit function turn off in my SkyEcho2 because it was last used in an aircraft with a adsb transponder...." ".......it's against the regs to have two OUT devices going at once in the same aircraft)....." To the best of my limited understanding my SE2 is operating to its full capacity , no functions have been switched of😈 Keep reading up; the answers out there.
Moneybox Posted Wednesday at 05:48 AM Posted Wednesday at 05:48 AM 3 hours ago, skippydiesel said: Its now mid week and there has been no response from OzRunway regarding my "outage" enquiry or for that matter much comment from the Forum😈 Some companies seem to ignore requests made on their website. Last week I saw that Level Aviation had a Oshkosh special running on the Level Autopilot (includes ADSB) so I looked up the Australian agent Swish Projects in Victoria. I sent them an onsite request for the basic unit plus some accessories. It's now Wednesday with no sign of a response. 1
Thruster88 Posted Wednesday at 06:16 AM Posted Wednesday at 06:16 AM Here is a handy chart from the government, can you be seen. It contains some errors, not all EFB's are the same. It is disappointing that the SkyEcho2 cannot trigger TCAS, the output viewed on fr24 in my experience seems just as reliable as a full adsb transponder when near a ground station. https://www.casa.gov.au/sites/default/files/2025-05/ads-b-can-you-be-seen-guide.pdf 1
Garfly Posted Wednesday at 06:22 AM Posted Wednesday at 06:22 AM 28 minutes ago, Moneybox said: Some companies seem to ignore requests made on their website. Last week I saw that Level Aviation had a Oshkosh special running on the Level Autopilot (includes ADSB) so I looked up the Australian agent Swish Projects in Victoria. I sent them an onsite request for the basic unit plus some accessories. It's now Wednesday with no sign of a response. In my experience, though, OzRwys Support has always been quick on the uptake, friendly and helpful. 1
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