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BurnieM, "They can of course then implement the bastard factor and refuse you permission to land and try to 'fine' you if you do." If the PIC declares an emergency, they can land whoever they choose - may be bit of a problem if the emergency found to be bogus. I agree with you - the market will decide what fees are acceptable. Unfortunatly there are owners who will try to extort as high a fee as possible, rather than what's reasonable, for the service provided and the ware/tare of their asset. A fee per ton with minimum charge, is not realy reflective of the ware/tare generated by a 600 kg RAA aircraft.😈

Good man. I try to call all airfields I will pass/one side/overhead within 10 Nm. Yesterday, passing about 8Nm to the north of Goulburn, 5500ft, I had a high performance twin taking off in my general direction. We made pilot to pilot contact. He saw me, I never saw him - all good. Shortly after I passed another aircraft at 4500 ft, several miles to the north - would never had seen him if not for SK2/Ozrunways, he/she made no calls but may have heard me abeam Goulburn/communicating with twin.😈

" ......it's just the system we have." No offence RossK but I am appalled by this statement. None of us should settle for a bad system or part thereof. ".......more traction with the RAAus Board members....." Thanks for that advice. I actually wrote to RAA, assuming that correspondence is readout & discussed at Board Meetings (as per standard Club/Organisation practice). The response I received was from Maxine CEO. I am now wondering if the response is her position or RAA's position😈

I guess the issue(s) come down to: Who controls/owns the air above an airfield? What rights does a PIC have to navigate where /whenever - subject to existing Federal airspace restrictions.? Should it become the "norm" for airfield owners to charge for use of the airspace above - at what point should this charge be levied (height above, distance from, services (if any) provided)? What might be the implications eg avoidance leading to fuel exhaustion/forced landing, would declarde emergencies and emergency response aircraft be fee free ? Landing fees vary, $0-20 (probably more)/landing for an RAA level aircraft - how can this be justified (greed?)? I feel that Australian pilots should remember, almost all airfields were owned by the Federal Government / US!. Due to the adoption of the now discredited Economic Rationalism /User Pays economic model, our short sighted Gov disposed of (sold & gifted) most of the airfields. Much like roads, rail, ports, electrical & water supply that are part of our essential (publicly owned) infrastructure, airfields that were completely open, are now restricted and/or being developed for non aviation purposes. Like most of the other public asset, that have been disposed of, this is an evolving disaster that we the people have allowed to happen (she'll - be right - mate). Public infrastructure/services underpins the economic & social wellbeing of a country, we are the poorer/disadvantaged for the loss of such.😈

I feel for you😈

My faith in humanity is restored - Thanks Jerry_ Atrick. Seems to me that Australians are particularity uninterested in fighting for their rights " she'll - be -right - mate". I am not against having my rights infringed/reduced, where it can be demonstrated that there is a greater good . ASIC not only infringes my rights without a demonstrable benefit BUT also costs me (all of us) as a taxpayer. Australia has the unenviable reputation of being one of the World's' least democratic democracies - ASIC is just a small example of this. It seem that private plots (on this Forum) are quite content with this double rort - if they weren't then their voices would be heard by RAA (our representative body) and something would have to be done, but noooo, all toooo hard. The fact is, no one/or organisation has made a significant effort to get this crap law modified. so that it does not apply to small rural airports.😈

Reference ; Trying to get the need for private pilots to hold an ASIC card , for access to to small rural Security Controlled Airports, abolished I have written to RAA - Got a two nice replies from Maxine (CEO) - in summary, total abdication of their representative function. Advised to contact local member. Have written to local member - as expected no response. If this changes will advise accordingly. The reality is, any politician contacted about this matter, is likly to do the vote maths v risk and decide its not worth their time. 31,000(?) private pilots , spread over the entire country, do no represent a significant lobby UNLESS their representative organisations take up the cause. "'She'll - be - right - mate" (apathy) rules the day😈

Ground crew and Controller are a long way apart. I would expect a Controller to be in radio contact and having a role to play in aircraft sequencing😈

It seems to me that there is almost never a "root cause" only multiple contributing factors. Certainly some form of controlled airspace. Given the aircraft movement frequency in a confined airspace, perhaps a company specific, air traffic coordinator, may have reduced the chances of a conflict. Even a "standard circuit pattern" is not without risk - reference the recent collision of two aircraft, death of three, at The Oaks, almost certainly due to failure of communication, along with procedural errors, etc.😈

As with almost all incidents there are likly to have been many factors (Swiss Cheese) - these were covered in the video. It matters not that the radio was/not working - no call was heard, therefore could not have added to the pilots situational awareness. I think you can take it as "fact" the neither pilot saw the other aircraft. Any other explanation would have to involve deliberate contact. The question then is why did both pilots not "see & avoid"? The only reasonable answers are: They did not communicate with each other - faulty radio, faulty radio procedure - the result is the same, Procedural failure - pilot failure, badly designed or lack of formal procedure Over reliance on the ability of the airborne human eye to detect another airborne object/aircraft😈

There you go again with your selective responses. "the rights & freedom to navigate, as the PIC determines, within the law" Which bit of my comment did you not read/comprehend? No more. 😈

With reference to the above video; I have long held the opinion that the "mark one eyeballs" is seriously limited (in airborne humans) thus making the "see and avoid" mantra, promoted by so many pilots/instructors, at best misleading, at worst a danger in itself. My opinion, in this matter, is often hotly refuted. I contend, that good radio communication, procedural adherence/discipline, are likly the greater safety skills, that "clue" the pilot into the location of the other airborne aircraft(s) and thus visual acquisition (not the other way around). In the above video - dodgy radio (lack of communication), structural visual blocking, questionable procedures and the limitations of the human eye, combined to create a disaster. The helicopter tragedy supports my argument all too well.😈

Turbs me old mate, Much though I love a good debate, when the opponent just wriggles & wriggles, going off on ever more irrelevant tangents, I grow weary, not of the original topic, but of trying to answer on topic (the rights & freedom to navigate, as the PIC determines, within the law)😈

In my dreams - the opportunities are going from zero to something way less.😈

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Thanks. I put Australia in my search parameters and thats one of the review sites that popped up - will go back & check again.😈 Monstermat is great IF you aren't baggage space & weight challenged Found this https://adventuregearonline.com.au/product/nemo-tensor-sleeping-mat-regular/ $199.99 Albury NSW This is defeinately Australia.😈

Thanks. I put Australia in my search parameters and thats one of the review sites that popped up - will go back & check again.😈

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A sight line issue is usually something to do with a visual amenity/historic vista or some such - very long bow, in try in linking that to the right of air navigation😈

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Dynon have asked me to; Disconnect the ADAHRS Check pin 2 & 7 Report finding to 1/0 of an ohm

It seems to me that Turbs has "muddied the waters" by introducing the concept of tall buildings and their impact on the freedom to navigate through the air. As an intellectual concept/theory ,this is valid however as a practical application - where the owner of the land has rights to the airspace above therefore can charge/toll passing aircraft its just BS😈

As far as I am concerned ERSA is the Bible on this - IF ERSA makes no mention, then any "air" charges are not valid. "....I flight plan around restrictions..." As we all do however if said levy does not appear in ERSA (example: Goulburn) then you may find yourself insuring an unforeseen charge 😈

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