David Isaac

Weslake certainly has a very interesting pedigree. Their Diesel variant will hopefully have potential as long as they can use engine heat to heat the diesel and have it circulating through the tank, other wise low temps at altitude will cause problems.

Well he is 100% correct and if we don't understand these principles! maybe this is why so many of us dying in accidents that should not happen. DJPacro just put something similar up on his Facebook page promoting his upset training.

It would ease the mind of many, but not necessarily me.

. I think that statement is potentially 'cocky'. You may be right and having not flown for years you may pick it up quickly. Did you do the required 'under the hood' training because that will add at least 2 hrs to required training. Rob, really don't want to disappoint you, but there used to be an expiry on the exams if you hadn't attained at least the first level of license that applied e.g. GFPT (Restricted PPL in my day). So I would suggest you will have to do your exams again.

Well not in all cases unless you are a Yanky Doodle Dandy.

Guys, From my reading of the documentation, the RPL is the same as and replaces the GFPT, same license, same syllabus, different name. Have I got that wrong? And ... It has to be done in a VH registered aircraft; and You cannot fly RAAus aircraft with it; so Why do you need an RPL If all you are going to do is fly RAAus type aircraft. If we then take that further, why is there a need for a new syllabus or any guinea pigs?

To my knowledge there is no requirement in GA to have a duplicate inspection when rigging an aircraft of the type that is rigged at every flight, such as trailerable types.

So is the inference that our Pilot Certificate training is not as good as GFPT (soon to be RPL)?

Violations of Controlled Airspace ....

In GA land the second independent verifying person can be a PPL. I have done the task and signed off many times as a PPL for several LAMEs. So if RA Aus is going to put requirements beyond the Pilot Certificate they are requiring more than GA does.

Damn, they really come in waves don't they. That is so sad for such an honourable attempt to end in such tragedy.

Ha ha Sam ... as long as you stay on the right side of them buddy ... we don't want any VCAs do we ...

And two of the factors that may vary the 'practicality' is weather and terrain.

Sorry Yampy, my post was NOT aimed at you at all, thanks for posting.

Provided the kit manufactuer and all current owners and current kit builders of the type have been notified DIRECTLY.

'Worlds fastest Indian' by chance ... You be careful you ol bugga, we dont want nuttin ta happen ta ya. OK.

What a load of dribble .. FFS, if it is a safety matter it MUST be mentioned, not to escape us the answer is pretty bloody obvious since all the Australian public know the aircraft involved and even it was a Cessna, litigation is always a possible outcome. The statement is pretty bloody irresponsible. Litigation is a separate civil matter and is a possibility in any case at any time. But again it was a kit build and a fly at your own risk aircraft. Where does this ignorant 'litigation' hokus pokus come from from????? Did she really say that or is that what someone said she said???

Ha ha, thanks Nev ... I knew there was an underlying reason I liked you .... call it a kindred spirit perhaps, there is something about that Motz guy too ...LOL

Yep, I can remember my instructor years ago when I was a lot younger reached across the cockpit, grabbed me round the neck and literally said to me ... "What the F*** are you doing, where are you? You are wasting your money and my time. Lets land and come back and do it again next week." ... and we did next week and he said 'That's better now we are back on song". He was a cranky ol bugga, but I still respect him immensely today. He would allow you latitude to get into trouble and see if you could get out of it, but he was always on the numbers with me ... "watch your speed Dave ...", not too steep Dave ... use your feet Dave ... well you saved that one Dave, well done, now you know what you did wrong ...". He was tough ... when I did my PPL flying test, after we took off he said ... "well you have just failed the test but lets go fly and see why" I had chosen to continue with my PPL test on a forecast of moderate to severe turbulence ... instant fail. Guess what ... that day I learned what that really meant, first hand experience, while we were in severe turbulence he put a diversion on me and that was obviously impossible, so he made his point. When we landed at Albion Park into a very strong headwind, I swear the 172 rolled to stop in about 50 metres. He did all my T/W, CSU, retractable and aerobatic endorsements as well. As a result to day, I am still critically aware of the things he drummed into me and especially my speeds in the circuit and the setup on approach to land. But above all he taught me that asking for a check flight and some review is an honourable thing to do. And to that point when I do my next BFR and I am gong to ask him to put me through the ringer in every aspect especially in light of recent accident events. I must admit I am in love with living and sharing life with all you mongrels ...LOL.

Thanks Motz. XX

East is least is applied to magnetic correction.

I think you will find the single seat BFR dispensation only applies to single seat aircraft. Where it is a dual seater, the BFR MUST be done in the aircraft

It is a very simple matter to edit a document that is live on the web. These should be 'controlled' documents in any case. Get the message out first ... then make any necessary edits as are seen fit. Again great effort to get the notice out and again congrats to Darren.

So can I Dazz, and that is my point and I think Potts point. You would have to be very vigilant with a low time student like my friend was, to ensure he was on the numbers all the time in the circuit, especially on the turns. It was my friends aircraft and he had not long before imported it from the US, but he was a newby and spent all his training time flying C172s, very docile safe aircraft and certainly nothing like the performance of the TB20 Trinidad with its IO-540 up front.

Potts, as always a good informative post, thanks. It would be interesting to hear from some of the other instructors on here in this one. DJP? Motz? Thanks