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The Christmas Spirit Darky, you are never too old, so never stop believing...we usually put Xmas stockings up on the sideboard for the little knicknacks and chockies etc (as well as the pressies under the tree) and my youngest son who is fourteen wanted to know how come the stockings were not up this year..we ignored his question busying ourselves with other things as you do Christmas eve...anyway his eyes lit up a treat this morning when he got up and wandered out to find...you guessed it his Christmas stocking...I think that regardless of what else he got, it underlines the little things at Christmas that are important to all of us...To you and all who enjoy this forum, I hope you all find your "Christmas Stocking" and wish you all a very merry Xmas.:robin:

Wonder if the airvan will go the way of the Skyfox when it was sold to the Indians...they just wanted to add aviation to their diversified portfolio. Last I saw of the Skyfox factory was when it was containerised to go overseas. Mind you the airvan's agricultural design suits low technology production in "third world" countries so could be well placed to be a success there.

Never had a problem with gliders...we have had comps at Dalby where they have lined up the first batch on the duty runway and subsequently launched about seventy or so all up. On occassions have had to depart on business at the same time, fairly simple to talk to them and let them know then depart away from where they are fighting to climb upwards. Most of the time I choose not to make it an issue and sit back and watch the launchings and just enjoy another aspect of aviation. :big_grin:

I use Vuplex and to save money, buy it by the carton..great on hard and soft plastics as I not only use it on the plane, but boat windscreen and clears as well:keen:

Can't help but notice how the ladies are very quiet on this subject:amazon:

Would make a really great medivac plane for around Norfolk Island...

When I first started to learn to fly, I actually lived at Mermaid Beach and travelled up to Archerfield every weekend for much the same reasons as you guys have stated so nothing has changed since the seventies. Without making this into a pprune type thread, I know that those factories are only interested in quick quantity dollars from starry eyed wannabies. I have walked into those establishments on occassions in recent times and have been met by some fairly rude instructors/counter staff :Disappointed:.

Hey Tomo, if you ever get a passenger feeling sick in the drifter, just don't fly over my house...please

Jim Bede designed some pretty cool aeroplanes and the BD-10 was probably the most ambitious...however the most successful line was the kit-built that became the grumman singles:thumb_up:

Learnt to fly in Grummans in the 70s and the group mentioned played a part in my early flying. (even did my initial twin rating in the Grumman Cougar) The Brisbane Flying Group has been around for a long time and is bit of an institution in its own right so for anyone considering GA flying a good group to get involved in. :thumb_up:

My two cents worth: Part of the certification process is that the aircraft recovers from a developed spin or it is demonstrated that it has a equivalent level of safety (such as cirrus with the chute) The reason the cirrus did not complete the spin testing is because the wing design actually stops the spin scenario from occuring..so to meet certification they came up with the BRS chute as an alternative which was accepted.. As far as Jab is concerned test pilots actually spun and recovered quite well and passed certification. Most aircraft are certified under the normal or utility categories and under utility you will see that some aircraft are certified for certain aerobatic manouvers. remember a intentional spin is deemed aerobatic.(see djpacro's post above) and an unintentional spin is a result of bad piloting in the normal sense. that is why during our pilot training we a taught to identify and recover from an induced spin. Hope that answered your question qwerty:drums:

I would have expected a more informed answer from Rod than what he gave, if you do try it and it goes pear shaped, he will probably deny what he said..(liabilty thing!!).giving you the idea of flying in ground effect only reinforces to me that it probably will react to disturbed airflow as Ozzie so rightly points out, compared to a skyfox or lightwing box shaped fuselage, the disturbance that would come from a no door situation back over the tailplane could reduce the tailplane effectness to the point of being dangerous. One of the big selling points used by Skyfox and Lightwing was the fact that you could fly with both doors open and even rest a foot out on the main wheel. If jab could have done it they would have, the back door off on the 430 is a different scenario and should not be examplified as a flight characteristic with flying with both doors off. :no no:

Good idea Ozzie, let's go over to pprune and ask..(he is a serial poster on that site) maybe he would like to come on here and share experience and wisdom from his perspective.

There you go qwerty, this post had been laying dorment for a few days and got it going for you...is there nothing in the aircraft handbook about door off flight?

Qwerty, the thing would be to contact the Jab factory and see if you can. They may not have done any flight testing. From the shape of the fuselage, I would guess flying with the doors off could disturb the airflow over the tailplane.

Knowing how much radio chatter and pilots talking over one another on 118.8mhz..(Caloundra, Caboolture and Redcliffe).it could quite have been the case where the pilot of the meatbomber simply didn't hear (or see) you.. Doesn't excuse her display of bad airmanship though!! A big reminder to keep a good lookout and plan well ahead..a missed approach early gives you an opportunity to plan your crosswind to better suit traffic conditions. Considering your experience Shags, well done:big_grin:

Well, I've got a class 1 (and 2) medical, just did my AFR and didn't cost anywhere near $2,000...(and I punched holes in cloud as well!!) but I could imagine some guys hiring aircraft and through lack of recently burning that amount no problem,,,:rolleyes1:

1. Beam me up Scotty....USS Enterprise:jive: 2. Spruce goose, but fly it properly to somewhere!! 3. Concorde (just to play with all those dials)

2002 - 2004 were bumper years for flight training as there was an influx of overseas students. PPL numbers did rise quite substantially whilst these guys studied and trained for their CPL and ATPL. On average there usually is about 10-11,000 ppl holders in australia. In the past, this figure grew at the rate of about 3% per annum taking into account new student pilots and those of the senior citizen stage of life either taking up gardening or ultralights (where a class 2 medical is not required) This has also been compounded lately with the state of our economy (but this has affected all the "boys toys")

Well thought out there Qwerty, nice job

Darky + Tomo = a little bit of flirting here we think!

I witnessed a crazy stunt a few years ago which involved a mate of mine and his girlfriend stripping off and flying naked (but both wore runners) :confused:

But will its mtow be less than 760kgs?:stirring pot:

Sir Reg Ansett is famous for selling oranges to his passengers at an inflated price while he waited to get his transport AOC... As far as Recreational flyers doing any sort of commercial ops..a big NO!! if you want to do commercial ops, simply get a commercial licence and an AOC like everybody else has to..

Just go to BCF or supercheap and by the cheapest 12volt winch on the shelf, then set it up on a trolley with a 12volt heavy duty battery driving the wheels using direct friction drive as maj said or by a bike chain (easy to figure out) two way switch for forward and reverse and attach a tow attachment to connect to aircraft. good weekend project for someone..