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Flying Binghi

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  1. It’s not a wonder this forum has no posters - yer keep banning them…😄
  2. Just to correct something - the research were first posted by call-sign onetrack
  3. Putting some diversions up eh. Seems call-sign Ian is trying to run away from my prior questions with a subject that is new to him…😄 I were involved in this very same debate several years ago in pprune. Think it were call-sign Jabbawoky were pushing this new ‘fuel’ from gami…😉 Anyway, slight diversion to comprehending just what is in sea spray, or just a couple of em anyway… If yer believes Wikipedia: “…Viruses, bacteria, and plankton are ubiquitous in sea water, and this biodiversity is reflected in the composition of sea spray…” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_spray ….Yeah… don’t breath in sea spray - or if yer a fish don’t eat that stuff, because as it moves up the food chain the heavy metals, leads one of em, accumulates and then…🤨 Anyway, How goes the answers to my questions call sign Ian..🙂 .
  4. Not at all. You were commenting about modifying lead exposure via removing a particular source. Therefor, by not going to the beach you are removing a source of lead exposure. You have compleat control over your exposure to ‘natural’ sources of lead - don’t go to the beach. Don’t eat food grown in leaded soils - which is most of Australia. Etc… So, he didn’t know where to buy the little can of wynnes additive..🤔 I don’t recall much of a fuss about the lead phase out - the cancer issue relating to the unleaded aromatics, well, thats another story. New cars were coming out with unleaded engines at the time and most of Australia’s car fleet turns over in about ten years… Aviation fleet turn over, well, thats another story… So you suggest we just roll over and die, eh..🤨 I should take the blame, eh..🤨 Why should I take on blame for something that contributes 1/16 of a poofteenth of sweet-feck-all of what is nowadays in reality a minor issue ? When we get to hear back from call-sign Ian trying to explain why the answers to my questions are a little ‘lacking’, then we can cover it some more. What all-ways makes me feel silly in hind-site if when I realise I’d lost my backbone over an issue. If you read the so-called research Ian presented you will note they left out certain demographics - Why? They try to blame lead for the violence of certain ‘demographics’ on lead exposure, when they should be looking at the destruction of the family values of those groups. 😑
  5. The discussion is not about leaded petrol cars as such. As I have already covered, 99.999% of leaded petrol engines are now gone. And keep in mind that most of the leaded petrol cars were driven many times a week. Most piston engined aircraft in Oz don’t fly much at all - a lot of the charter ops are done with no-lead jet-A turbines or jets. “Source A, B…”… There is lead in sea spray. Are you suggesting that we ban going to the beach? Any adult who believes that nil lead is the only acceptable level would never take a child within miles of the sea side. Or creeks, or vegetables, or…… Where do you stop…
  6. OKaaay…. Lets try again. Ian, reference the research paper under discussion: * The actual locations of the airports - How can I identify which airports are referenced ? * The size of the airports. * The actual locations of the various groups re distance from airport. Were they all located near one airport, or were they spread around. * The locations of toxic waste dumps. To add to my comments - Airports because of their size and late arrival to City/town development tend to end up in the old dump area or low lying swamp area etc, or have heavy industry located around them. * And yet. The other paper I referenced, whilst talking housing, does not mention airports. Ian, as you seem to have access to all this extra info, perhaps you can answer the actual points I raised..🙂
  7. Seems you don’t know of the ‘crisis’ in medical research. Over 70% of medical research papers have been found to be crap. With those odds I probably didn’t even need to read the research paper to be confident of giving it the ‘crap’ rating…🤨 All and good, though does not answer the points I raised: * The actual locations of the airports - How can I identify which airports are referenced ? * The size of the airports. * The actual locations of the various groups re distance from airport. Were they all located near one airport, or were they spread around. * The locations of toxic waste dumps. To add to my comments - Airports because of their size and late arrival to City/town development tend to end up in the old dump area or low lying swamp area etc, or have heavy industry located around them. * And yet. The other paper I referenced, whilst talking housing, does not mention airports. Ian, as you seem to have access to all this extra info, perhaps you can answer the actual points I raised..🙂 And yet, as the Oz government data shows - there is natural lead everywhere in the environment - in the food we eat, in the creeks we swim in. The only way to get a nil exposure to environmental lead would to be locked up in a ‘safe room’. My argument has been from the get-go, that Aviation lead in Australia adds nothing of concern to the lead exposure that people are already getting naturally. 🙂
  8. I don’t need to be wearing an Angel Flight cap when I help the old lady across the road. If yer keen why not just put the word out to a few country Dr’s that your aircraft is available as a free taxi service..🙂
  9. OK, I’ve had a brief bit of a look-see and consideration...🤔 …..It’s Crap research. Apparently the airports they claim to base the research on are not actually listed. Whilst the big airports can be roughly defined on the research paper Wake county map, most cannot. The other county’s referenced in the paper have no map. Doing a bit of goggle maps correlating to the research paper map of Wake county some ‘airports’ appear to be little more then ‘one hanger’ bush strips. I note, of the 1267 children included in the research that they claim are within 500 metres of an airport they do not say how many at each airport. For all we know the 1267 kids are all at one location. The same for the 1000, 1500, and 2000+ distances - all the children could be at one location for all we know, right on top of the old toxic waste dump. Whilst housing gets a mention, there is no mention of toxic waste issues. A big issue in North Carolina apparently. Are any of these toxic waste sites located near the research paper reference airports? https://deq.nc.gov/about/divisions/waste-management/waste-management-rules-data/waste-management-gis-maps/federal-remediation-sites A read of a child lead research paper reference North Carolina makes no mention of airports. Seems there are other issues: “..Mothers of the 63.5% of children (402,002 of 633,159) linked to a blood lead test result were disproportionately young, Hispanic, Black, American Indian, or on Medicaid…” https://www.researchgate.net/publication/361030475_Patterns_of_Children's_Blood_Lead_Screening_and_Blood_Lead_Levels_in_North_Carolina_2011-2018-Who_Is_Tested_Who_Is_Missed 🤨
  10. Well intentioned, though… I’m guessing when somebody wants to travel re medical issues they wants to get there by a set time. A pilot aborting due WX or unserviceability is fair enuf, though the ‘patient’ may be a little unwell and stressing and noting they could have driven there the day before. A few aborts and suddenly all pilots get a bad reputation. Imagine if the sick pax throws a fit or dies during the flight - Pilot liable ? As I say, well intentioned, though probably best kept clear of.
  11. Furthering my research on the onetrack posting. I note reference to North Carolina in the research. For one thing NC has a lot of current and old copper mines which means…🤔 …including todays related industry’s they have an interest in monitoring lead: “…In May 2016, a North Carolina Childhood Lead Poisoning Prevention Program (NC CLPPP) epidemiologist noted clusters of elevated blood lead levels (BLL) among 16 children documented as take-home lead exposures in North Carolina’s lead surveillance system. Local lead investigators visited the homes of the children with confirmed BLLs greater than 5 micrograms per deciliter (µg/dL). They found lead dust on household members’ work boots, laundry areas, car upholstery, and children’s car seats. NC CLPPP partnered with North Carolina’s Occupational and Environmental Epidemiology Branch (OEEB), which houses the Adult Blood Lead Surveillance (ABLES) program. Through this partnership, NC CLPPP determined that the children’s exposures were linked to employees of two workplaces: a lead oxide manufacturer with 26 current employees and a battery manufacturer with over 400 employees. As the employees resided in multiple counties, the investigation crossed many jurisdictional boundaries…” https://www.cdc.gov/nceh/lead/programs/nc.htm 🤔… I don’t see any mention of aircraft ? .
  12. Hmmm… please do point to the posts referring to all that...🤔 And, yet. There are all them natural sources referenced in the gov.au.edu web site I linked to…🤫 Perhaps Ian thinks they will be closing down the umpteen millions of geothermal vents around the world. No more drinking bore water or eating fish caught outer creeks and so on…🙂 As I’ve said before, like every thing in life, its the dose that matters. 🙂
  13. Yer never know. I see he’s got the tail wheel on the wrong end of the aircraft…😃
  14. Hmmm… Sometimes if yer want to get the ‘correct’ result yer just have to employ the ‘correct’ researchers. Lets have a brief look-see… Via the onetrack link: “…Residence in poor and minority neighborhoods was also associated with elevated lead levels. In contrast, recently constructed housing units were associated with decreased mean lead levels…” ..”minority neighbourhoods”. Hmmm… Perhaps we need to have a look-see at what else these researchers are up to…. “…Racial residential segregation has been associated with preterm birth. Few studies have examined mediating pathways, in part because, with binary outcomes, indirect effects estimated from multiplicative models generally lack causal interpretation. We develop a method to estimate additive-scale natural direct and indirect effects from logistic regression. We then evaluate whether segregation operates through poor-quality built environment to affect preterm…”. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24681575/ Looking at the research I guess non-‘whites’ must live in old houses. Likely next to an old industrial estate, that’s usually located next to the ‘airport’. Nothing like kids playing in the dirt of an old industrial estate when they could be playing in the dirt of a new housing development out in the hills… I guess them bad bad whites flying around in their little airplanes are to blame…🤨 onetrack, I’m gunna have a further look-see at this research. I’d like to define just which ‘airports’ they used and have a look at the surrounding location. 🙂
  15. Thats the thing, even if there were never a mine at Broken Hill there would still be a lead rich soil via the natural weathering. Having a look-see at the lead deposits map of Oz it is every where. Lead gets spread around via dust storms, via bush fires, via creeks, and via ground water. Those who think we can have a nil lead environment in Oz are fooling themselves. Lead from aviation is not even registering on the natural background levels. .
  16. “…Two schools of thought…” 🤨 Ian, can I recommend you actually study the subject…🙂 “…the former science advisor to the Barack Obama administration is laying waste to claims that rampant global warming is a death sentence for humanity. Physicist Steve Koonin, former U.S. under secretary for science, and the director of the Center for Urban Science and Progress at New York University, has released a new book entitled Unsettled: What Climate Science Tells Us, What It Doesn’t, and Why It Matters. Although Dr. Koonin firmly believes that the Earth is warming and that humankind has something to do with it…” https://thenewamerican.com/former-obama-science-advisor-takes-an-axe-to-climate-emergency-narrative/
  17. Hmmm… Does not my quote say “the Oz environment”, and to be doubly sure I mention “in Australia”…😑 I’ll leave the yanks to work out their aviation. Re the links: I suppose if you give me 300 million dollars, with the promise of more to come, to go sail around the world and identify pollution in the worlds oceans - Well, I’ll find pollution…😄 Back with Australia: “…The main lead mineral is galena (PbS), which contains 86.6% lead by mass. Cerussite (PbCO3) and anglesite (PbSO4) commonly occur in the near-surface weathered or oxidised zone of lead orebodies. Lead deposits form from hot, aqueous (or hydrothermal) fluids generated within the earth. These fluids flow along sub-surface fractures, where galena and other minerals may be deposited to form vein deposits. Fluid flow can also occur in aquifers, and in limestone, galena and other ore minerals can precipitate in cavities to form rich but patchy deposits. Some fluids may reach the ocean floor in areas of underwater volcanic activity to form 'volcanogenic' deposits. Examples of this last type of deposit are presently forming under the ocean off Papua New Guinea, Canada and elsewhere in the world. Other fluids may escape to the surface into shallow seas, and, under suitable conditions, lead-zinc-silver deposits may form. For thousands of millions of years, deposits have been forming in these manners, and may eventually be exposed at the surface following weathering and erosion. Some are completely eroded away and may be recycled by natural processes into the earth. Partially eroded deposits exposed at the surface were relatively easily discovered; examples include Broken Hill in 1883 and Mt Isa in 1923. These deposits formed the basis of Australia's lead-zinc silver mining industry…” https://www.ga.gov.au/education/classroom-resources/minerals-energy/australian-mineral-facts/lead#heading-5
  18. …and yet, not long ago I were ridiculed for saying the Barrier Reef is healthy after the so-called scientists said it were done for. Where’s the evidence I asked… Nothing, …..I should just ‘believe’…🤨 😑
  19. ? Isn’t that the stuff yer get in Himalayan table salt ? I would suggest you don’t bath in avgas. Apart from that, if yer believe wikipedia: “…it now appears that bromine is an essential trace element in humans…” https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bromine
  20. “…violent crime and antisocial activities…” Criky!!! I didn’t realise the local leaded avgas burning airport had such a collection of villains………..…🤔…… … I’m going to look at the refuelling truck driver in a whole new light..😄 I see sea spray has lead in it. That would explain why surfers are so dumb…😄 As always - its the DOSE that matters. If yer living next to an old lead mine be concerned. Apart from that there’s a lot more gunna kill yer or stupefy you. I see there is a new term out there - Type 3 diabetes. Go stupid in old age all thanks to the high sugar content of modern food…🤨 Compared to what’s naturally in the Oz environment the amount of lead aviation puts out in Australia is 1/16 of a poofteenth of sweet f-all. .
  21. The claims of clean plugs and less valve stick sound good, but, let the crash test dummies try it out. We have a cheaper Av fuel in Oz now. Why rush. The yanks will ‘refine’ the concept and ultimately make the fuel cheaper as there is more competition. Ten years from now is the go…🙂 .
  22. “…pretending that climate change wasn't an issue…” ‘Climate change’ is not a Real issue. It is an over blown hysteria. I remember a while back there were a thread here about the Barrier Reef being all damaged and under attack from ‘climate change’. I argued that it weren’t. I see now the latest scientific report says the reef is the healthiest its ever been since it were first monitored… Oh dear, hysteria what.…..🙂 Apparently our dams were never going to fill again and we needed to build all them water purifying plants… Oh dear, hysteria what….🙂 The science said twenty years ago that by now the children will not know what snow is… Oh dear, hysteria what…🙂
  23. Looks like it will be Ok. Clean plugs a plus. Noting his comments on refinery mods it will probably take 10 years or so before we get it in Oz - unless direct from the USA. I see mention of a 90c a gallon price increase for it..😬 .
  24. I made a substantial investment in a biodiesel fuel company over 20 years ago - that were back in my stupid greeny days. All gone…🤕 The smart move, once oil gets a bit more expensive and Oz has moved to nuclear power, will be to do coal to fuel conversion. Then there is methane hydrate. China is spending big on researching it and Japan has already had their drill rigs gassing it. Once that gets going then there’s about 10,000 years supply available at the current rate of usage…😎 .
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